Ciao John & Jed A small point. But perhaps pertinent to the issue of the grain of Tiddlerisation (i.e. what is the appropriate unit, a sentence, a paragraph, a page, a chapter?).
My sense is to pay attention to what for readers is the semantic unit of text that coheres into a "step". When you read someone like Charles Dickens the semantic unfoldment corresponds well to paragraph structure. [Dickens was writing brilliantly tightly for serialised publications with absolute word limits. His serial cliff-hangers are amongst the most inviting ever written.] But if you reading someone like J.M. Coetzee, a very fine modern novelist, the meaning is slowly emergent. The structural unit is likely much more the chapter than the paragraph. The flex of TW allows many solutions and that is good for E-pubs. It allows differential implementation book by book, as appropriate. My gripe is not so much the architecture of an e-novel. Its more around how difficult its getting to save the bloody thing and make sure a reader can see it well on multiple devices. Best wishes Josiah On Monday, 21 November 2016 13:45:41 UTC+1, John Newell wrote: > > Hi Jed - thanks for the feedback > > We actually tried doing that with Spiritual Quest eBook and rounded up > some ( novices to TW5 ) and gave them chapters done as slideshows. > displaying one page at a time - just clicking the series of small icons > atop that tiddler > > there were a few that liked it - but the vast majority found : > > - the icons too small on mobile devices to navigate successfully ( the > "all-thumbs" response ) > - the pages then too many ( which is almost the same experience as > ePub ) except ePub benefits from finger-slide page turns AND auto-flowing > of fluid text > - --- We questioned which felt better ePub or TWebook and TW was > categorically favoured - mainly because it LOOKED better overall. > > The problem with slides is that you'd need a version for mobile, one for > tablet and one for desktop in separating tiddlers...... > > > TW5 already has inbuilt flowable text - DOWN the page - seemlessly. > > Whilst that initially confused the throng of test bunnies we threw these > to, they warmed to it - especially when the ability to have IMAGES appear > where they should be was evident. > > > what is more natural on a TECH DEVICE ? > > It has to be more comfortable that the weird mobile phone attachment > > that allows you to hear the other talked when you put you finger in your > ear !!! > (SGNL - https://youtu.be/Yh1M5kVlNOw ) > > > > > On Monday, November 21, 2016 at 11:25:52 PM UTC+11, Jed Carty wrote: >> >> I think that with what we have right now you could just split your text >> into different tiddlers for each section, where sections are either >> paragraphs or something longer, and have them display in order with a theme >> that doesn't show tiddler boundaries. It would be pretty simple to have >> something analogous to a page be a few paragraphs long and have buttons >> that will close the tiddlers currently displayed and open the set for the >> next or previous page. Then bookmarks could be to a page in the same way >> you would with epubs. >> >> The slide show plugins people have made already do pretty much this same >> thing, it would just be a different display of the same thing. The most >> difficult parts would probably be making tools to automatically split the >> paragraphs into pages. It would be easy to just say that a page is equal to >> 5 paragraphs, but if you have very long or very short paragraphs in some >> part of the book than you would have inconsistently sized pages and you may >> have some pages running off the screen. That could be a problem on some >> readers, but the rest wouldn't be too hard. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/1c15f545-b076-4859-a327-390b47d5475c%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
