I thought I'd chime in on this. I may be a renegade but I think TW5 can be much 
better than an ePub because of its ability for the user to make changes. 

Our church has an excellent but dated family activity book. It has lots of 
ideas with descriptions of each idea. Families that can't think of something 
can look through the book and it sparks ideas. The best thing about the book is 
the organization. 

Often in our family we would assign a child to find an activity and there are 
games and things to do on walks and all sorts of stuff. 

It is also great for youth groups to come up with an annual plan of activities. 

One problem with the book is since it is a simple paper and ink book when the 
kids get married they want a copy of our family version that has all sorts of 
notes and phone numbers and stuff that has been added to the pages. 

I also have used this book with a Boy Scout group that I have worked with for 
many years. When I am released from that role I know the next leader would love 
a copy so he or she doesn't have to start over from scratch. 

ePubs don't fill the bill because they aren't able to change and therefore 
aren't cherished like this book is. 

My idea is to create a TW that can be distributed in its pristine form and keep 
it simple enough that users can easily make it there's. 

This way I can keep one version for my scouts. In fact I can give versions to 
the youth leaders and let them create their own patrol version and someday I 
can simply email the latest version to the new leader when I leave. And I can 
still have my Scout version for me to page through and remember good memories. 

I can also give copies of our family version to my kids and grandkids over 
time. Wouldn't that make a great Christmas or wedding present. 

I can see that ePub is a way to make money and protect intellectual property 
but I would like to hear your thoughts about this use of TW. 

Cheers
Marc

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> On Nov 21, 2016, at 7:45 AM, John Newell <magilla...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jed - thanks for the feedback
> 
> We actually tried doing that with Spiritual Quest eBook and rounded up some ( 
> novices to TW5 ) and gave them chapters done as slideshows. displaying one 
> page at a time - just clicking the series of small icons atop that tiddler
> 
> there were a few that liked it - but the vast majority found :
> the icons too small on mobile devices to navigate successfully ( the 
> "all-thumbs" response )
> the pages then too many ( which is almost the same experience as ePub ) 
> except ePub benefits from finger-slide page turns AND auto-flowing of fluid 
> text
> --- We questioned which felt better ePub or TWebook and TW was categorically 
> favoured - mainly because it LOOKED better overall.
> The problem with slides is that you'd need a version for mobile, one for 
> tablet and one for desktop in separating tiddlers......
> 
> 
> 
> TW5 already has inbuilt flowable text - DOWN the page - seemlessly.
> 
> Whilst that initially confused the throng of test bunnies we threw these to, 
> they warmed to it - especially when the ability to have IMAGES appear where 
> they should be was evident.
> 
> 
> 
> what is more natural on a TECH DEVICE ?
> 
> It has to be more comfortable that the weird mobile phone attachment 
> 
> that allows you to hear the other talked when you put you finger in your ear 
> !!!
> (SGNL - https://youtu.be/Yh1M5kVlNOw )
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Monday, November 21, 2016 at 11:25:52 PM UTC+11, Jed Carty wrote:
>> I think that with what we have right now you could just split your text into 
>> different tiddlers for each section, where sections are either paragraphs or 
>> something longer, and have them display in order with a theme that doesn't 
>> show tiddler boundaries. It would be pretty simple to have something 
>> analogous to a page be a few paragraphs long and have buttons that will 
>> close the tiddlers currently displayed and open the set for the next or 
>> previous page. Then bookmarks could be to a page in the same way you would 
>> with epubs.
>> 
>> The slide show plugins people have made already do pretty much this same 
>> thing, it would just be a different display of the same thing. The most 
>> difficult parts would probably be making tools to automatically split the 
>> paragraphs into pages. It would be easy to just say that a page is equal to 
>> 5 paragraphs, but if you have very long or very short paragraphs in some 
>> part of the book than you would have inconsistently sized pages and you may 
>> have some pages running off the screen. That could be a problem on some 
>> readers, but the rest wouldn't be too hard.
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