Hello Josiah

El jueves, 20 de julio de 2017, 9:19:06 (UTC+2), @TiddlyTweeter escribió:
>
> Tutti, Small comments ...
>
> *NoteSelf is currently largely MAGIC*.  
>

Hope that is not so bad as it sounds.
 

> Meaning *its actually quite difficult to conceptually grasp* what it is & 
> how it works. In time it will get clearer. That is NOT a criticism. Its an 
> observation on a technology that just works a different way.
>

To be honest, the only people that I think they may get confused are the 
current TW users. Most (if not any) of the confusion here is because people 
is trying to treat NoteSel as a file, rather than an online service. It is 
better if you understand it as an online service, and NoteSelf is it's 
front-end. You can think in NoteSelf like a tiddler explorer, to see 
tiddlers that are stored on a database, like a file explorer just allows 
you to see your files, and it does not hold your files. NoteSelf is just an 
UI, an app to access your tiddlers stored somewhere, no matter if that 
place is your local browser or a remote database.
If you try to compare it to tiddlywiki, if you force it to be what it is 
not, then you will get confused as most of the TW users does.

 

> I am still myself unclear on several points ...
>
> (1) CORS settings in Cloudant and what the addressing they ask you for 
> there does? Do you need a "stub" at the address?
>
 

>
> (2) Still unclear in the difference between the DOWNLOAD version and the 
> ONLINE version.
>

There is NO difference. They both do exactly the same thing. The download 
version is useful *if you want to host it on your own site.* I said this 
hundred times, but there is no point about downloading it to your computer, 
it just makes no sense. I think I will hide the download button a bit more, 
maybe moving it to an "advanced use" section.
 

(4) I get the impression that some tiddlers -- like PLUGINS for instance -- 
> can be "hard-coded" into the DOWNLOAD version, rather than be in the 
> browser database. *In other words, there is a "sort-of" TW that exists 
> outside the PouchDB for the download version?*
>

Yes, you can hard-code some stuff into the html file. I will call this 
"compile NoteSelf". Let's think about this with the previous example, the 
file explorer. If you want to add a new button to your file explorer, you 
have to edit the code and compile it. Now your file explorer has that 
button every time you open it. Good. The only difference is that NoteSelf 
allows you to install plugins without "compiling" them into NoteSelf. 
So, to summarize:

   - If you install a plugin int o a NoteBook, then it will be only 
   available on that NoteBook
   - If you compile NoteSelf with several plugins they will be available on 
   that "instance" of NoteSelf and all the notebooks you open with it, but 
   they are not saved into the NoteBook, so if you open your NoteBook with a 
   different NoteSelf app without the plugins "compilled into it" they will 
   not be available.
   
 

> (5) I'm unclear IF and HOW one can convert a DOWNLOAD version into a 
> synchronising one with a cloud database version.
>

As I said, the DOWNLOAD version does the same thing than the online 
version, so the procedure is the same.

I think I will ask people to stop referring to the Download version as 
Offline. It is simply not true, is not meant to be used as a regular TW 
file, is just the same app on your computer rather than the cloud.

Regards

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