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> Joe Armstrong wrote: Tiddlers contain far more than markup. There's wiki 
> text with an embedded programming language and an implicit environment ...
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Absolutely.

Part of the issue with discussing "Markup" is being clear what is what. 
Whilst stuff like the syntax for transclusions is another level than simple 
text substitution for html/css, in reality, for users it is empirically at 
the SAME level--its all about typing stuff into text that does stuff on 
render.

But much of the confusion/complication on conversion of different "Markup" 
systems stem from this--that at USER level there is one system of entry, 
but at programmatic level there can be several different things that are 
not so easy to "translate". 

The originally stricter meanings of (narrow) "markup" & (programmatic) 
"syntax" have blurred. 

Josiah

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