Steven, I suppose the importance of the tag field is its supporting tools like tag pills, filters and tags as tiddlers. Personally I have started to reduce my use of tags in favour of reserving them for adhoc or hierarchical relationships.
The list fields is a special case of using a field as a list of titles, where if you have drag-able lists, for example of items tagged with a specific tag you can set the order with drag and drop. Thus I leave it alone for that purpose. Even the existence of a field can act like a tag once you become familiar with field filters note the has[fieldname] filter demands the field have a value, even one space character. I am gradually starting to use custom fields, listops and tools rather than using too many tags. One use of using another field as a list of titles (not the tags or list fields) is for subjects or categories that differ from tags. Once a tag exists it is available to all tiddlers to tag them, if you use tags for subjects and categories it is not easy to tell the different functions of different tags unless you add this to the naming standard. Of late I am playing with Jeds GenTags plugin <http://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/GenericTagFields/> Which provides the partial equivalent of additional tags fields, which I am using for subjects and Categories, each additional field has its own list of candidate titles, rather than from all tags. I am starting to see limitations with the tabs widget, that may have something to do with your students issue, however your code snipit I would describe as "Populate a field with a list of titles" could help here. Thanks for sharing I hope my perspective throws a little light on the subject. Tony On Saturday, 24 March 2018 07:59:54 UTC+11, Steven Schneider wrote: > > Not a technical problem, a visual problem. He wanted to be able to leaf > through illustrations without shifting tiddlers, and the tabs approach > wasn't really doing it for him. Mostly: I'm interested here in > understanding how list field differs from tag field, and how they can be > used to accomplish different types of things. > > On Friday, March 23, 2018 at 4:17:10 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote: >> >> What was the problem with the <<tab>> approach? If it was just the sort >> order, add a field "sortby" to each illustration with a double buffered >> illustration number ("01", "02" ... "31" ....) >> >> Then >> >> <<tabs "[tag[Illustrations]sort[sortby]]" >> \\ >> >> "$:/state/tab2" "tc-vertical">> >> >> should work. >> >> -- Mark >> >> On Friday, March 23, 2018 at 10:51:27 AM UTC-7, Steven Schneider wrote: >>> >>> Hmm. Let me try again: >>> >>> At >>> http://tombofhorrors.tiddlyspot.com/#Illustrations:Illustrations%20Description >>> the >>> author uses <<tabs>> to present images tagged with "Illustrations". This is >>> ok, but not super ideal. >>> I suggested he create a new tiddler called "Show the Illustrations" that >>> made use of a list of tiddlers so that they could be identified and sorted. >>> The <<tag Illustrations>> was of limited value, so I suggested he might use >>> the list field instead (We ultimately ended up developing a tag-based >>> macro >>> <https://designwritestudio.updog.co/#Navigating%20Through%20A%20Set%20of%20Images> >>> instead >>> of using a list field...). >>> >>> While exploring list fields, it was annoying to manually populate a list >>> field with every tagged tiddler, so we wrote that short one-time use button >>> script that essentially put the contents of the <<tags>> field into a >>> <<list>> field of a specified tiddler. (It was also a way to introduce the >>> use of the ActionListOps widget)(on reflection, there was probably a faster >>> way to copy the contents of the tag field of a tiddler into the list field >>> of another tiddler, but I didn't think of that until now). >>> >>> Our discussion generated some interesting questions about the nature of >>> list fields, as well as the nature of the tags field, and when it was >>> useful / appropriate to use tags and when it was useful / appropriate to >>> use list fields. That's really my question. >>> >>> Thanks for seeking clarification :) >>> >>> //steve. >>> >>> >>> On Friday, March 23, 2018 at 12:25:06 PM UTC-4, Stephan Hradek wrote: >>>> >>>> To me it's absolutely unclear >>>> >>>> a) What you're trying to achieve >>>> b) What's your question >>>> >>>> Really sorry for that. Do you think there are filters the student can't >>>> use becaue he used tags and he could have used, had he used lists? So can >>>> you give an example? Maybe publish an example somewhere for us to have a >>>> look at? >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/ad6dd7dc-3097-451c-97c6-30a0d7204a36%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
