Great discussion! I have been thinking about how to organize tiddlers in my TW as well. From the whole folders/tags/links/search debate, I internalized that it is the best to use search and rely on links as well, use tags as a supporting mechanism and leave folders to the previous centuries. However, I also know from before that tags can lose a lot of utility if they become way too many. So I decided to keep the amount of tags purposefully very limited. However, I find myself often thinking a would like to link-or-tag a tiddler to a more general one. What I do now in this situation is that I am creating tiddlers with more general topic, if they don't exist, I leave them empty and I link my actual tiddler I am working on to them. I also tag those more-general tiddlers "hook" just to have them all under one tag for review. But the key for my current workflow is to create the link and then other more-specific tiddlers related to the topic, if there is no obvious case for direct interconnection, are linked through this hook. I am not sure if this way is actually a good idea. Recently I have considered using sub-tags instead of these hooks. But as I don't want to mix my tags and subtags, there is no subtagging in the TW5 core, I was thinking of this workaround: just start all subtags with the same specific set of characters, say "Z-", so all subtags will list in the list of tags at the end and also I will immediately recognize they are subtags. The advantage of this is that from TW point of view these will still be tags, and that has advantages over using a specific field as mentioned in this debate (e.g. you can create a TOC). The disadvantage is that is a bit messy workaround, not a proper solution.
TonyM, I would be also interested to hear more about your system-under-consideration, e.g. how do you distinguish subjects from categories. Or to hear about how does it work for you in the future if you apply the system fully. TonyM On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 4:16:26 PM UTC+2, Brady77 wrote: > > Dear members, > > you may have the same problem: the only way I can remember things is by > having some *context*. How such a context is created depends on how > people actually think. You may recall a person via a place where you met > before. Or a time frame combined with a place. And emotions, maybe. > Probably the most popular scheme for creating a context is > *classification*. People tend to create "boxes" for things because they > need some context (of course, to be able to rule those things later, but it > is a different story). What are we forced to use in the IT world are > *folders* and *tags*. Folders allow for creating a *hierarchy*, but don't > allow to have a thing (a tiddler) to be in more than one folder at the same > time - *just one context only*. Tags on the other hand are *flat* in > structure, but allow for *more than one context*. Tiddlywiki allows for a > combination: *tags hierarchy*. Great! So I developed a system of tags > that helps me recall things quickly. Just to show you what I mean by a > "system of tags": > > 1. Data format > > 1.1 Image > > 1.2 Webpage > > 1.3 Video > > 1.4 ... > > 2. Message form > > 2.1 Report > > 2.2 Tutorial > > 2.3 Overview > > 2.4 Promo > > 3. Topic > > 3.1 Business > > 3.1.1 Marketing > > 3.1.1.1 Content marketing > > 3.1.1.2 SEO > > 3.1.2 Trading > > 3.1.2.1 Stock > > 3.1.2.2 Cryptocurrency > > 3.2 Art > > 3.2.1 Visual > > 3.2.1.1 Typography > > 3.2.1.2 Photography > > 3.2.1.3 Drawing > > 3.2.1.4 Architecture > > 3.2.2 Performing > > 3.2.2.1 Music > > 3.2.2.2 Movie > > 4. Subject > > 4.1 TiddlyWiki > > 4.2 Cisco > > 4.3 Donald Trump > > 4.4 ... > > > What I created is a kind of faceted classification > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faceted_classification>. Let me describe > my ideal workflow, now: > > Say I came across an interesting post on Medium: *How to write something > that people like to read. * I decided to save it into my TiddlyWiki. With > Tiddlyclip I created new tiddler and added some tags, too: ["Webpage", > "Tutorial", "Content marketing","Typography"]. > > A few weeks later I am writing a blog post to support my business, but I > don't know how to write an interesting copy. Is there anything interesting > in my TiddlyWiki? Let's have a look: First I would type "marketing" into > the *search bar*. Next I want to narrow the fulltext search output to > categories, so I choose "*show me tags only"*. By clicking on a > "Marketing" keyword it will be added to the *search filter*. Now I have a > *list > of filtered tiddlers* from the Marketing *category *and all > *subcategories*. Beside the list of tiddlers there is a *list of related > tags.* What if I want to narrow my search again? I just click on > "Tutorial" (from the related tags list) to add the tag to the filter. There > are now two tags with a logical AND operator. If my list of tiddlers is > still too long, I may narrow it again by choosing "Content marketing". > Voila, my article is there! ;) > > Do you think it is feasible to create something like this? Something what > Amazon has on his pages - a faceted search. Sorry for my complicated > description. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/4f514b3e-59f0-4d4e-890c-10d96c609ba5%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
