Hi Petr Thanks for the comments, much appreciated. You make a strong case for these improvements, and I take your point that it may require my attention to make them happen. I can’t promise to work on it immediately, but I’ll try to give it some time.
In the meantime, the experiments by Mario and others might help us explore some of the UI issues. For example, link handling will need rethinking. We’d probably want [[8EBDE50D-090C-40F0-B204-7907B4B1A780]] to produce the following wikitext: <$link to="8EBDE50D-090C-40F0-B204-7907B4B1A780"> <$view tiddler="8EBDE50D-090C-40F0-B204-7907B4B1A780" field="caption"/> </$link> Right now, it produces this: <$link to="8EBDE50D-090C-40F0-B204-7907B4B1A780"> <$text text="8EBDE50D-090C-40F0-B204-7907B4B1A780"/> </$link> As you’ve noted, losing easily typeable links could be mitigated by providing a popup search that is triggered on double square brackets. Best wishes Jeremy. > On 21 Apr 2018, at 12:46, Brady77 <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Jeremy again, > > Jeremy Ruston wrote: > > OK, you’re describing what I think of as the “GUID approach”. It’s a nice > pattern, and definitely resonates with a lot of users. I don’t see it as > requiring a major change to the TW core design, though: it’s predominantly > high level UI entities that would need to change (eg the edit template). > Personally, I’m not a huge fan because of the unreadability of link targets, > but I’d like TW5 to support it for those that want it. > > I really appreciate how you approached this issue. Part of user-base has > found ways around this and don't consider it painful at all. Nevertheless you > are still listening (to novice voices) and are open to find some solution. I > would like to kindly ask you for driving (managing) the changes. There are > many good reasons: you are the father of TiddlyWiki, the architect, you can > balance between the pros/cons and see the consequences. > > This feels like a false dichotomy. “Changing the system” implies that it > wouldn’t work in the way that it does currently, which would be a problem > from a backwards compatibility perspective. Perhaps the option is better > expressed as “augment the system so it can work as described above”. > > Yes, I know. I intentionally created this high level of contrast to push this > further. Honestly, I went trough many similar discussions (as @PMario points > here as well) and get completely lost - there was no real solution, ever. > Even if many members tried their best to solve it reasonably (including you). > I felt internally (this is solely my own opinion) that it is caused by > missing support at the core - the basic building blocks lack some > functionality. In another words: all the workarounds were trying (with some > degree of success) to fix something that the core was supposed to do by > design. Once again - I have no technical knowledge - this is solely based on > what I read from discussions and what I had a chance to try as a solution. > I'm telling you this with full respect to your excellent job and the > brilliant idea that lasts for years. > > But if you want to focus on implementation difficulty, option (a) touches > many components of the system while (b) is a self-contained subsystem with > well defined inputs and outputs. My experience suggests that the complexity > of a software task depends primarily on the number of entities involved, and > so I would be inclined to think of option (b) as being less difficult. > > To ease this discussion: like from a fairy-tale: "Which path you choose is > solely in your hands. We are with you, captain! The community is hanging on > your lips to follow you." > > Best wishes to you, Jeremy. > > Petr > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki > <https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/3909b74f-6e51-462f-9c26-c2d3000f0416%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/3909b74f-6e51-462f-9c26-c2d3000f0416%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/765B409C-6F18-408C-89BC-0AA7127179E4%40gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
