Brady et al..
I find this discussion quite interesting because this issue is never one I
am concerned about. Using the uni-link plugin also seems to solve all other
cases I can imagine. Is it because I am really good at selecting Titles or
the fact I usually establish relationships through other mechanisms such as
tagging? I can personally see applications where I would establish fields
and or tagging to handle tiddlers with a large number of related tiddlers
such as adding paragraph and chapter values so including tiddlers or
relationships uses a programmatic method which does not care about the
tiddlers title to work and thus can be renamed without damage.
Can you describe what kind of use or method you have that is making your
solution title sensitive and I may be able to suggest an alternative?
I typically only transclude in a tiddler {{tiddlername}} if it is code or
systems design where I do not care what the name is, only that I have the
correct name. If I Found my self with [[no longer appropriate title to
appear in text]] I would use [[newtitle|no longer appropriate title to
appear in text]] as Mario suggested, or I would rename the tiddler and its
reference(s). This is not a problem if it is occasional and if it was a
problem because the item was referred to in many places I would find a
programmatic way to implement it.
Lets also consider, what If I am using a large set of titles I expect may
need lots of renaming, I can use the pretty link, caption or uni-links
plugin to help (I find this hard to believe this is not enough), but if I
had this problem, then I would find a programmatic solution to this. You
could use an intermediate Glossary as an index to the original tiddler
using a unique value in a field, then use macros to insert the tiddler what
ever its name.
What I say is if and when you are inserting into a tiddler a Link or
Transclusion to another tiddler ask your self could I possibly need to
change the name, not only here but in many places then just do not do it,
find another solution.
Please define the occasions where this is occurring and let me suggest a
solution. I love these kinds of challenges, and I seem not to have the
problem you are voicing.
Regards
Tony
On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 4:47:40 AM UTC+10, Brady77 wrote:
>
>
> Jed Carty wrote:
>>
>> I don't really see the need for it to be immutable, so that point isn't
>> universally agreed upon. There are a number of things in tiddlywiki that
>> are done by overwriting a tiddler based on the name. Almost any time you
>> change a setting that has a default value in the core you create a new
>> tiddler that has the same name as the core tiddler.
>>
>
> You are right Jed. It was premature to state that.
>
>
>> While tiddlywiki can be used as a database it isn't a database. For
>> everything I do relationships between tiddlers are handled using tags and
>> other fields to generate the needed links or relationships, the names
>> almost never come into it.
>>
>
> According to the official documentation (Philosophy of Tiddlers
> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Philosophy%20of%20Tiddlers> and Structuring
> TiddlyWiki <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Structuring%20TiddlyWiki>) there are
> five basic building blocks to structure the Wiki:
>
> 1. Tiddlers <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Structuring%20TiddlyWiki> - only
> field that is required is the title field
> 2. TiddlerLinks <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Linking%20in%20WikiText> -
> link to a tiddler by title [[Tiddler Title]]
> 3. Tagging <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Tagging> - "A tag is in fact just
> a tiddler (or a potential tiddler), and it can have tags of its own. You
> can add any number of tags to the same tiddler." - If tag is internally a
> tiddler then 1. applies
> 4. Title Lists <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Title%20List> - "A title list
> is a line of text that presents one or more tiddler titles" - is based on
> tiddler titles
> 5. DataTiddlers <https://tiddlywiki.com/#DataTiddlers> - named
> properties are accessed by referencing the data tiddler title again
>
> I didn't examine any important functions (like searching etc) but so far
> it is obvious that the tiddler title should not be modified not just
> because of the links, but because of other building blocks as well. It is
> true at the same time that there are special cases when it is desirable to
> change or set the tiddler title (as Josiah stated above).
>
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