Tony, Related to the feature set you're discussing, you might find it useful to look at this bit of code:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/Qw5sjePXfr0 Which allows notes/content to be dragged into a separate open window, for direct inclusion in your TiddlyWiki. Incorporating this code with the beautiful outliner example provided by Mark would be a perfect extension to TW. Other extensions with capabilities that would be amazing (potentially with some more friendly UI changes) to integrate with this would be the SidebarExporter, the Rearranger, and SlidesnStories, all from here: http://slidesnstories.tiddlyspot.com/ I've borrowed code and plugins heavily from this site, and am very grateful to Jan for putting them out there. Many of the shiny bits there are cobbled together from code by others, and I've used bits of each of their work as well - see the Footnotes plugin as an example. On a related topic: there's a reason David is using Dynalist to compile all these bits of shiny things for TW - it just works, and it's easy. If more people with the technical skills to do so would put these bits together, and present usable solutions "out of the box", TW could quickly move from a hobbyist tool to a mainstream productivity tool - well, several different (and compatible) productivity tools actually. A little coordination of some of the tools like Cardo, Dropboard, TiddlyMap, this TOC based outliner, and the TWRocketDock linked above would allow a varying number of TW files, each focused on different tasks/purposes/data, to exchange and reference each others data/appointments/outlines/content of all types as needed by the user. The great strength of TW - the many developers each putting out great pieces to solve their own particular issue - is also it's great weakness. Each piece in itself is amazing, but the coordination of these unique pieces into usable full-featured TW implementations, suitable for a given task, is beyond what most non-coders are willing or able to do. I'd love to have a capable open outliner, with which I could view/relate/modify/reorganize data in a capable mind mapping/diagramming tool. Then take that data and organize tasks and projects on a kanban type board. Then take items from that board and reference them in my GTD TW implementaion with dates, resource lists, contacts, etc. All of these components exist now, but getting them to work well *together* is in many ways beyond my limited ability, and that of most non-technical users. I've digressed a bit from the subject of the thread, for which I apologize. I would like to thank all of the people developing for TW - those I've mentioned above and many others I haven't - for their wonderful contributions. Thanks also David for the great resource on Dynalist - it's fantastic to see all the things TW is capable of. Tony, I'm looking forward to anything you put out based on Mark's impressive example - there's a lot of potential here. again, thanks to all: Greg On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 6:57:33 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote: > > Mark, > > By scenario I think you are referring to "Open in New Window" With the > ability to open the tiddler in the main story > > Given it works as a TOC but also provides in place editing, if we could > make it work on Open in New Window, On my Desktop I would have the outline > open and be able to either review the completed result but edit tiddlers in > the main browser window, or the reverse. It will certainly help working > with large numbers of tiddlers. It helps provide a powerful work > environment. Just open TableOfContents in a new window to see what I mean. > > The Truth is (as is common for me and TiddlyWiki) I can see a wide range > of possibilities I would like to pursue inspired by your code. I was > planing something in this direction for a very different reason - easy tabs. > > With your permission my I use and possibly rewrite your code towards these > new ideas? I will Include an acknowledgement if desired. > > Regards > Tony > > On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 10:29:58 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote: >> >> I'm not sure what scenario you are thinking of. >> >> When you click on the indexed items in the TOC, a linkcatcher widget sets >> the value of a specified tiddler to the value of the link. That value is >> then used on the right side of the TOC to display the specified link >> tiddler. If you wanted to, you could make a separate tiddler that >> transcluded the tiddler previously specified. You could make that tiddler >> appear in it's own window. The thing is, I'm not sure what problem that >> solves. >> >> BTW, after one of your other posts, I realized that the "sortby" field >> isn't really necessary. Users can just use the tag pill to rearrange >> tiddler order among sibling tiddlers in the TOC. >> >> Thanks! >> -- Mark >> >> On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 4:41:33 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote: >>> >>> Mark, >>> >>> I like this, it has a polished look and it helps the imagination of >>> whats possible grow, although simple in its own way. >>> >>> One somewhat powerful improvement would be to getting it fully working >>> on "Open in New Window" so it can be an Index to the side >>> >>> - With the ability to open the tiddler in the main story >>> >>> I have a few ideas I am exploring I plan to make it visible on any >>> tiddler if that tiddler has children with a toggle, >>> >>> I have a lot more ideas so if you want to develop it beyond its current >>> model "ping me" >>> >>> Regards >>> Tony >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 2:13:39 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote: >>>> >>>> This is an experimental TOC-based outliner for TW5. >>>> >>>> You will need the most recent TW (maybe it works in 5.1.14, but didn't >>>> test). >>>> >>>> Your theme should be tweaked for a fluid story river and a fixed >>>> sidebar. You will probably want to use it without the sidebar most of the >>>> time. >>>> >>>> Probably you will want to use this in an empty TW, since it will litter >>>> your TW with documentation tiddlers. Drag and drop the package into your >>>> target TW5. If there is any popular response, maybe I will upgrade it to a >>>> plugin. >>>> >>>> Start with the TWOutlier tiddler to learn more about the reasons and >>>> usage for TWOutlier. >>>> >>>> Compared with commercial outliner projects, TWOutlier doesn't have as >>>> many features, (thus it is an "outlier-outliner"), but does have these >>>> advantages: >>>> >>>> >>>> - Free (as in beer) >>>> - Doesn't need internet >>>> - Works on older tablets >>>> - Leverages TiddlyWiki Editor >>>> - Should use images just like TW5 >>>> >>>> It doesn't look as nice as the project Dave Gifford has going, but it >>>> does have the advantage of allowing tiddlers to be edited right where they >>>> are displayed. Links are internal to the TOC structure, helping to focus >>>> attention inside the outline. >>>> >>>> Have fun, >>>> -- Mark >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/87887ea8-9534-4082-98d1-22b4512cfd2f%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
