I would say there's a usability *loss*.

As soon as you get beyond simple list loops, there's no clear way forward.

Also, there's tons of documentation on JS. Standard procedures and 
techniques.

Take a look at recent post 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/IpKqoJbs35c and explain 
how you would do that with the existing toolkit.

I don't understand the security reference. What will prevent potentially 
malicious users from inserting their own widgets, filters, or js macros? 

The analogy with assembler doesn't really work. Assembler is a *lot *harder 
to use than javascript. Javascript is possibly a *little* harder than 
TW5-code, but it has massive support and almost none of the cul-de-sacs of 
TW5.


Thanks!


On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 11:09:15 AM UTC-7, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> There is a huge usability gain, you don't need to know any javascript to 
> make something new and useful with tiddlywiki. I made most of my earlier 
> plugins that I still use before I knew any javascript.
> If it were just a neat javascript page that you used javascript to make 
> things in than I never would have played with it.
> The reusability and simplicity of widgets is amazing, wikitext abstracts 
> out a lot of the overhead to give only the parts that are specifically 
> useful. Yes there are things that are missing but that isn't a downside of 
> the approach, that just means we aren't done making everything yet.
> Also there are huge gains in security, I would never put Bob online if it 
> had inline javascript like tiddlywiki classic.
>
> Yes, you can do less with vanilla tiddlywiki than you can with javascript, 
> but you can do more with assembler than you can with javascript, but I am 
> not going to write a web server in assembly despite the potential 
> performance gains.
>

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