thanks so much for your help and all the great information, Tony. And for
making me feel welcome.
You'll be happy to know that i have been Googling, and i have four tabs
open for different help pages right this minute. :)
SOrry about the no title on posts. i thought it picked up on the previous
title, when replying. So when i reply like this, how do i put a title on
it? i can't find where to do that in a reply. (Sorry, again, i'm used to
forums for this stuff, rather than a Google group format).
Anxious to have a look at your link, too. thanks for that. I downloaded
timimi, but haven't installed it yet. not sure if i know how. will have to
look again. I guess i have too may irons in the fire! but that's what is
called NORMAL for me.
By the way, i tried drag and drop and that didn't work--or maybe it just
didn't work the way i imagined it would. :)
Will start another post about images.
On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 5:12:04 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>
> Kelli,
>
> Sounds like you are slowly getting the information you need.
>
> I suggest starting a new thread for your image handling issue. A simple
> drag and drop can work in most cases however since it gets stored in the
> wiki you need to use other methods if you have a lot of images. Normally
> once you put in an image you can open the tiddler and see it or use
> transclusion to include it elsewhere {{imagetiddlername}} see how the icon
> field works.
>
> Tiddlywiki is in some ways simple for what you can do but it is also so
> extensive in possibilities, it can also seem overwhelming especially if you
> get excited and try to do a lot quickly. If you have not yet I suggest
> downloading a copy and working through the documentation found on
> tiddlywiki.com, you can add all your own notes: I have a variation of
> tiddlywiki.com for teaching yourself here
> http://tiddlywiki.psat.com.au/learn/ Download the full copy which
> includes all the tiddlywiki.com documentation, ways to take notes, log
> your activity and more. If you install Timimi, once downloaded and saved in
> your document folders double clicking the file will open it and
> automatically save, you will be unlikely to get all those files in your
> downloads directory.
>
> Tiddlywiki.com includes links to community resources and teach yourself
> information.
>
> Google, Google Google with TiddlyWiki in your search and you will find
> more resources.
>
> When posting here it is best to have a heading that describes the issue,
> so unless related try and start a thread for each issue, people that help
> can see what you need more easily rather than look through a longer post.
>
> We are on your side, and always learn from new starters so you will not be
> "shown the door". You are now part of our community.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 11:22:53 PM UTC+10, Kelli Jae Baeli wrote:
>>
>> Tony--thanks for you help....I didn't know i wasn't supposed to touch the
>> backstage on desktop. It's not exactly clear on much of this when you're
>> just getting started. Once i understand the filing system and the
>> particulars, i'm sure it will all make sense.
>> [image: 2019-07-02 07_51_10-Open.png]so..burning question: *Will
>> deleting and reinstalling tiddly desktop affect any of the files i've
>> already created*? I am not about to start over entering all that
>> information again. And here's what those files look like...so I'll wait for
>> an answer to that, before i do anything. I don't want to lose several days
>> of work. It does sound like using desktop is still the way to go for me,
>> all things considered. At the risk of belaboring the point, I just want to
>> be sure I'm not endangering the work/tiddler-creation I've already done.
>>
>> I'm still not sure why these main(#).html files are in the download
>> directory, nor why there are so many, nor if this means all my data is
>> spread out over all those files, and not consolidated in just one. (or ARE
>> they? and if so, where is THAT file?)
>>
>> I've downloaded the empty.html file and created copies of it, and renamed
>> it to a couple other things, (literati.html and personalbiz.html) but those
>> are in the Tiddlywiki directory with the original main files; and all my
>> other files, as I said, are in my downloads folder. Maybe because my
>> browser is set to save to the downloads folder, i assume?--if that's true,
>> then if i change the location for downloading in firefox, does that mean
>> all the other stuff i download will end up with TW files, instead of the
>> downloads folder?
>>
>> I also downloaded Timimi as you suggested, but haven't dealt with that
>> yet.
>>
>> I have more questions but only because i can't seem to find this
>> information anywhere else.
>> one of the most pressing is about images...i really need to place images
>> in tiddlers regularly, and be able to see them, and it seems that's a
>> feature that doesn't exist. this could be a deal breaker for me, but
>> hopefully there's a workaround. i would think it's odd not to have that
>> ability, since it's all html/css and that's meant for webpages, which are
>> full of images...but then, this TW application is being used differently i
>> suppose.
>> Okay, forgive my ruminations. I still appreciate any help, even if it's
>> to point me toward helpful documentation (or toward the door :)
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 11:51:27 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>>
>>> Kelli,
>>>
>>> I think you are taking a path that is confusing you. Personally I
>>> suggest deleting TiddlyDesktop (TS) and installing it a fresh. Tiddly
>>> desktops backstage is how tiddlydesktop works, *I suggest do not touch
>>> it.*
>>>
>>> Now go to tiddlywiki.com and down load empty.html and save it somewhere
>>> in you documents. Copy this file to text.html or any new wiki name you want
>>> to create as many times as you want, each copy creates a new wiki. Now open
>>> TiddlyDesktop (TS) and add a TiddlyWiki file. Browse to a wiki file and
>>> select it. It will now be listed in TS, click open and make changes to you
>>> wiki as you want.
>>>
>>> If you use the nodeJS version of tiddlywiki to create a wiki, it will
>>> result in a folders version of tiddlywiki, which you can also select to
>>> list in TiddlyDesktop and open if from there. In both cases tiddlydesktop
>>> automatically saves you wiki where you opened it.
>>>
>>> Key advantages of TiddlyWiki desktop
>>>
>>> - Has its own built in browser
>>> - Can link to an open local applications and folders (can't on
>>> regular browsers because of security)
>>> - Can be used to share the wiki on your local area network (I have
>>> not tested this)
>>>
>>> If you just want to play and get a little confidence try
>>> https://noteself.github.io/ online
>>>
>>> If you use FireFox I recommend installing Timimi which will allow you to
>>> open and automatically save File:// addressed Tiddlywikis in your browser.
>>> Some prefer this over TiddlyDesktop because of the add-ins and tools
>>> available in their favorite browser.
>>>
>>> Best of luck
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 10:33:28 AM UTC+10, Kelli Jae Baeli wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is this where i can get help?
>>>> i'm very new at this, and while i have some knowledge of html and CSS
>>>> through years of website management, tiddlywiki has a learning curve, and
>>>> i'm at the starting line.
>>>> So.
>>>> I would much appreciate some help on this.
>>>> I'm using TW desktop. Windows 10/Firefox.
>>>> I had created a few tinkles. LOL. tiddles? oh, tiddlers. yeah.
>>>> and i had added some buttons i wanted in the settings/setup. It was
>>>> starting to make sense.
>>>>
>>>> [image: 2019-06-29 19_41_02-TiddlyDesktop – Main.png]then i added some
>>>> of the plugins on the list, and refreshed, and nothing came back.
>>>> i closed out and tried to start again and couldn't figure out how to
>>>> start it again.
>>>> when i clicked the TW desktop icon on my taskbar, I clicked on
>>>> backstage button where i found the place to enter tiddlers finally, and
>>>> nothing opened. no backstage.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I tried opening the html files where i stored it on an external drive
>>>> and still nothing.
>>>> (I had created a storage folder, MyTiddlyWiki, on my external hard
>>>> drive, and it had two files --- main (1).html and main.html)
>>>>
>>>> did i somehow delete everything?
>>>> how do i get to that backstage area again? (and next time). Do i need
>>>> to just create a link on my desktop to the tiddlywiki folder? or html file?
>>>> Where oh where did my newly created tiddlers go?
>>>> I feel like Little Bo Peep.
>>>>
>>>> ADDENDUM:
>>>> by the way, when i opened the html file, it sent me here, with these
>>>> errors.
>>>> [image: 2019-06-29 19_37_28-TiddlyWiki — errorplugins.png]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [image: 2019-06-29 20_40_00-.png]
>>>> ADDENDUM AGAIN: okay, i guess i was being a noob. i did find the
>>>> tiddlers i created under a tab in the sidebar. so guess they weren't lost,
>>>> I WAS. :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Still have the issue with the errors that pop up after adding plugins,
>>>> and also why i can't get the backstage button to work like it did
>>>> before.... could use help with that.
>>>>
>>>>
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