okay, i had trouble understanding the accent..the cat icon is on mac, but i 
did try to open the appropriate file on windows -nw.exe-- and nothing 
happens.

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 8:31:49 PM UTC-5, Kelli Jae Baeli wrote:
>
> Hey Tony, having trouble even loading/starting the tiddlydesktop app--the 
> video instruction is for MAc, and I'm in windows. there is no cat icon in 
> mine, and the only executable file with an icon in the folder is nw.exe and 
> when i click that, nothing happens. Where is the exe file to open the 
> tiddlydesktop?
>
> On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 5:12:04 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Kelli,
>>
>> Sounds like you are slowly getting the information you need. 
>>
>> I suggest starting a new thread for your image handling issue. A simple 
>> drag and drop can work in most cases however since it gets stored in the 
>> wiki you need to use other methods if you have a lot of images. Normally 
>> once you put in an image you can open the tiddler and see it or use 
>> transclusion to include it elsewhere {{imagetiddlername}} see how the icon 
>> field works.
>>
>> Tiddlywiki is in some ways simple for what you can do but it is also so 
>> extensive in possibilities, it can also seem overwhelming especially if you 
>> get excited and try to do a lot quickly. If you have not yet I suggest 
>> downloading a copy and working through the documentation found on 
>> tiddlywiki.com, you can add all your own notes: I have a variation of 
>> tiddlywiki.com for teaching yourself here 
>> http://tiddlywiki.psat.com.au/learn/ Download the full copy which 
>> includes all the tiddlywiki.com documentation, ways to take notes, log 
>> your activity and more. If you install Timimi, once downloaded and saved in 
>> your document folders double clicking the file will open it and 
>> automatically save, you will be unlikely to get all those files in your 
>> downloads directory.
>>
>> Tiddlywiki.com includes links to community resources and teach yourself 
>> information.
>>
>> Google, Google Google with TiddlyWiki in your search and you will find 
>> more resources.
>>
>> When posting here it is best to have a heading that describes the issue, 
>> so unless related try and start a thread for each issue, people that help 
>> can see what you need more easily rather than look through a longer post.
>>
>> We are on your side, and always learn from new starters so you will not 
>> be "shown the door". You are now part of our community.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 11:22:53 PM UTC+10, Kelli Jae Baeli wrote:
>>>
>>> Tony--thanks for you help....I didn't know i wasn't supposed to touch 
>>> the backstage on desktop. It's not exactly clear on much of this when 
>>> you're just getting started. Once i understand the filing system and the 
>>> particulars, i'm sure it will all make sense.
>>> [image: 2019-07-02 07_51_10-Open.png]so..burning question: *Will 
>>> deleting and reinstalling tiddly desktop affect any of the files i've 
>>> already created*? I am not about to start over entering all that 
>>> information again. And here's what those files look like...so I'll wait for 
>>> an answer to that, before i do anything. I don't want to lose several days 
>>> of work. It does sound like using desktop is still the way to go for me, 
>>> all things considered. At the risk of belaboring the point, I just want to 
>>> be sure I'm not endangering the work/tiddler-creation I've already done.
>>>
>>> I'm still not sure why these main(#).html files are in the download 
>>> directory, nor why there are so many, nor if this means all my data is 
>>> spread out over all those files, and not consolidated in just one. (or ARE 
>>> they? and if so, where is THAT file?)
>>>
>>> I've downloaded the empty.html file and created copies of it, and 
>>> renamed it to a couple other things, (literati.html and personalbiz.html) 
>>> but those are in the Tiddlywiki directory with the original main files; and 
>>> all my other files, as I said, are in my downloads folder. Maybe because my 
>>> browser is set to save to the downloads folder, i assume?--if that's true, 
>>> then if i change the location for downloading in firefox, does that mean 
>>> all the other stuff i download will end up with TW files, instead of the 
>>> downloads folder?
>>>
>>> I also downloaded Timimi as you suggested, but haven't dealt with that 
>>> yet.
>>>
>>> I have more questions but only because i can't seem to find this 
>>> information anywhere else.
>>> one of the most pressing is about images...i really need to place 
>>> images in tiddlers regularly, and be able to see them,  and it seems that's 
>>> a feature that doesn't exist. this could be a deal breaker for me, but 
>>> hopefully there's a workaround. i would think it's odd not to have that 
>>> ability, since it's all html/css and that's meant for webpages, which are 
>>> full of images...but then, this TW application is being used differently i 
>>> suppose. 
>>> Okay, forgive my ruminations. I still appreciate any help, even if it's 
>>> to point me toward helpful documentation (or toward the door :) 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 11:51:27 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kelli,
>>>>
>>>> I think you are taking a path that is confusing you. Personally I 
>>>> suggest deleting TiddlyDesktop (TS) and installing it a fresh. Tiddly 
>>>> desktops backstage is how tiddlydesktop works, *I suggest do not touch 
>>>> it.*
>>>>
>>>> Now go to tiddlywiki.com and down load empty.html and save it 
>>>> somewhere in you documents. Copy this file to text.html or any new wiki 
>>>> name you want to create as many times as you want, each copy creates a new 
>>>> wiki. Now open TiddlyDesktop (TS) and add a TiddlyWiki file. Browse to a 
>>>> wiki file and select it. It will now be listed in TS, click open and make 
>>>> changes to you wiki as you want.
>>>>
>>>> If you use the nodeJS version of tiddlywiki to create a wiki, it will 
>>>> result in a folders version of tiddlywiki, which you can also select to 
>>>> list in TiddlyDesktop and open if from there. In both cases tiddlydesktop 
>>>> automatically saves you wiki where you opened it.
>>>>
>>>> Key advantages of TiddlyWiki desktop
>>>>
>>>>    - Has its own built in browser
>>>>    - Can link to an open local applications and folders (can't on 
>>>>    regular browsers because of security)
>>>>    - Can be used to share the wiki on your local area network (I have 
>>>>    not tested this)
>>>>
>>>> If you just want to play and get a little confidence try 
>>>> https://noteself.github.io/ online
>>>>
>>>> If you use FireFox I recommend installing Timimi which will allow you 
>>>> to open and automatically save File:// addressed Tiddlywikis in your 
>>>> browser. Some prefer this over TiddlyDesktop because of the add-ins and 
>>>> tools available in their favorite browser.
>>>>
>>>> Best of luck
>>>> Tony
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 10:33:28 AM UTC+10, Kelli Jae Baeli wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this where i can get help? 
>>>>> i'm very new at this, and while i have some knowledge of html and CSS 
>>>>> through years of website management, tiddlywiki has a learning curve, and 
>>>>> i'm at the starting line.
>>>>> So.
>>>>> I would much appreciate some help on this.
>>>>> I'm using TW desktop. Windows 10/Firefox.
>>>>> I had created a few tinkles. LOL. tiddles? oh, tiddlers. yeah.
>>>>> and i had added some buttons i wanted in the settings/setup. It was 
>>>>> starting to make sense.
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: 2019-06-29 19_41_02-TiddlyDesktop – Main.png]then i added 
>>>>> some of the plugins on the list, and refreshed, and nothing came back. 
>>>>> i closed out and tried to start again and couldn't figure out how to 
>>>>> start it again. 
>>>>> when i clicked the TW desktop icon on my taskbar, I clicked on 
>>>>> backstage button where i found the place to enter tiddlers finally, and 
>>>>> nothing opened. no backstage.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried opening the html files where i stored it on an external drive 
>>>>> and still nothing. 
>>>>> (I had created a storage folder, MyTiddlyWiki, on my external hard 
>>>>> drive, and it had two files --- main (1).html and main.html)
>>>>>
>>>>> did i somehow delete everything?
>>>>> how do i get to that backstage area again? (and next time). Do i need 
>>>>> to just create a link on my desktop to the tiddlywiki folder? or html 
>>>>> file?
>>>>> Where oh where did my newly created tiddlers go?
>>>>> I feel like Little Bo Peep.
>>>>>
>>>>> ADDENDUM:
>>>>> by the way, when i opened the html file, it sent me here, with these 
>>>>> errors.
>>>>> [image: 2019-06-29 19_37_28-TiddlyWiki — errorplugins.png]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: 2019-06-29 20_40_00-.png]
>>>>> ADDENDUM AGAIN: okay, i guess i was being a noob. i did find the 
>>>>> tiddlers i created under a tab in the sidebar. so guess they weren't 
>>>>> lost, 
>>>>> I WAS. :) 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Still have the issue with the errors that pop up after adding plugins, 
>>>>> and also why i can't get the backstage button to work like it did 
>>>>> before.... could use help with that.
>>>>>
>>>>>

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