Hey Tony, having trouble even loading/starting the tiddlydesktop app--the
video instruction is for MAc, and I'm in windows. there is no cat icon in
mine, and the only executable file with an icon in the folder is nw.exe and
when i click that, nothing happens. Where is the exe file to open the
tiddlydesktop?
On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 5:12:04 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>
> Kelli,
>
> Sounds like you are slowly getting the information you need.
>
> I suggest starting a new thread for your image handling issue. A simple
> drag and drop can work in most cases however since it gets stored in the
> wiki you need to use other methods if you have a lot of images. Normally
> once you put in an image you can open the tiddler and see it or use
> transclusion to include it elsewhere {{imagetiddlername}} see how the icon
> field works.
>
> Tiddlywiki is in some ways simple for what you can do but it is also so
> extensive in possibilities, it can also seem overwhelming especially if you
> get excited and try to do a lot quickly. If you have not yet I suggest
> downloading a copy and working through the documentation found on
> tiddlywiki.com, you can add all your own notes: I have a variation of
> tiddlywiki.com for teaching yourself here
> http://tiddlywiki.psat.com.au/learn/ Download the full copy which
> includes all the tiddlywiki.com documentation, ways to take notes, log
> your activity and more. If you install Timimi, once downloaded and saved in
> your document folders double clicking the file will open it and
> automatically save, you will be unlikely to get all those files in your
> downloads directory.
>
> Tiddlywiki.com includes links to community resources and teach yourself
> information.
>
> Google, Google Google with TiddlyWiki in your search and you will find
> more resources.
>
> When posting here it is best to have a heading that describes the issue,
> so unless related try and start a thread for each issue, people that help
> can see what you need more easily rather than look through a longer post.
>
> We are on your side, and always learn from new starters so you will not be
> "shown the door". You are now part of our community.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 11:22:53 PM UTC+10, Kelli Jae Baeli wrote:
>>
>> Tony--thanks for you help....I didn't know i wasn't supposed to touch the
>> backstage on desktop. It's not exactly clear on much of this when you're
>> just getting started. Once i understand the filing system and the
>> particulars, i'm sure it will all make sense.
>> [image: 2019-07-02 07_51_10-Open.png]so..burning question: *Will
>> deleting and reinstalling tiddly desktop affect any of the files i've
>> already created*? I am not about to start over entering all that
>> information again. And here's what those files look like...so I'll wait for
>> an answer to that, before i do anything. I don't want to lose several days
>> of work. It does sound like using desktop is still the way to go for me,
>> all things considered. At the risk of belaboring the point, I just want to
>> be sure I'm not endangering the work/tiddler-creation I've already done.
>>
>> I'm still not sure why these main(#).html files are in the download
>> directory, nor why there are so many, nor if this means all my data is
>> spread out over all those files, and not consolidated in just one. (or ARE
>> they? and if so, where is THAT file?)
>>
>> I've downloaded the empty.html file and created copies of it, and renamed
>> it to a couple other things, (literati.html and personalbiz.html) but those
>> are in the Tiddlywiki directory with the original main files; and all my
>> other files, as I said, are in my downloads folder. Maybe because my
>> browser is set to save to the downloads folder, i assume?--if that's true,
>> then if i change the location for downloading in firefox, does that mean
>> all the other stuff i download will end up with TW files, instead of the
>> downloads folder?
>>
>> I also downloaded Timimi as you suggested, but haven't dealt with that
>> yet.
>>
>> I have more questions but only because i can't seem to find this
>> information anywhere else.
>> one of the most pressing is about images...i really need to place images
>> in tiddlers regularly, and be able to see them, and it seems that's a
>> feature that doesn't exist. this could be a deal breaker for me, but
>> hopefully there's a workaround. i would think it's odd not to have that
>> ability, since it's all html/css and that's meant for webpages, which are
>> full of images...but then, this TW application is being used differently i
>> suppose.
>> Okay, forgive my ruminations. I still appreciate any help, even if it's
>> to point me toward helpful documentation (or toward the door :)
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 11:51:27 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>>
>>> Kelli,
>>>
>>> I think you are taking a path that is confusing you. Personally I
>>> suggest deleting TiddlyDesktop (TS) and installing it a fresh. Tiddly
>>> desktops backstage is how tiddlydesktop works, *I suggest do not touch
>>> it.*
>>>
>>> Now go to tiddlywiki.com and down load empty.html and save it somewhere
>>> in you documents. Copy this file to text.html or any new wiki name you want
>>> to create as many times as you want, each copy creates a new wiki. Now open
>>> TiddlyDesktop (TS) and add a TiddlyWiki file. Browse to a wiki file and
>>> select it. It will now be listed in TS, click open and make changes to you
>>> wiki as you want.
>>>
>>> If you use the nodeJS version of tiddlywiki to create a wiki, it will
>>> result in a folders version of tiddlywiki, which you can also select to
>>> list in TiddlyDesktop and open if from there. In both cases tiddlydesktop
>>> automatically saves you wiki where you opened it.
>>>
>>> Key advantages of TiddlyWiki desktop
>>>
>>> - Has its own built in browser
>>> - Can link to an open local applications and folders (can't on
>>> regular browsers because of security)
>>> - Can be used to share the wiki on your local area network (I have
>>> not tested this)
>>>
>>> If you just want to play and get a little confidence try
>>> https://noteself.github.io/ online
>>>
>>> If you use FireFox I recommend installing Timimi which will allow you to
>>> open and automatically save File:// addressed Tiddlywikis in your browser.
>>> Some prefer this over TiddlyDesktop because of the add-ins and tools
>>> available in their favorite browser.
>>>
>>> Best of luck
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 10:33:28 AM UTC+10, Kelli Jae Baeli wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is this where i can get help?
>>>> i'm very new at this, and while i have some knowledge of html and CSS
>>>> through years of website management, tiddlywiki has a learning curve, and
>>>> i'm at the starting line.
>>>> So.
>>>> I would much appreciate some help on this.
>>>> I'm using TW desktop. Windows 10/Firefox.
>>>> I had created a few tinkles. LOL. tiddles? oh, tiddlers. yeah.
>>>> and i had added some buttons i wanted in the settings/setup. It was
>>>> starting to make sense.
>>>>
>>>> [image: 2019-06-29 19_41_02-TiddlyDesktop – Main.png]then i added some
>>>> of the plugins on the list, and refreshed, and nothing came back.
>>>> i closed out and tried to start again and couldn't figure out how to
>>>> start it again.
>>>> when i clicked the TW desktop icon on my taskbar, I clicked on
>>>> backstage button where i found the place to enter tiddlers finally, and
>>>> nothing opened. no backstage.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I tried opening the html files where i stored it on an external drive
>>>> and still nothing.
>>>> (I had created a storage folder, MyTiddlyWiki, on my external hard
>>>> drive, and it had two files --- main (1).html and main.html)
>>>>
>>>> did i somehow delete everything?
>>>> how do i get to that backstage area again? (and next time). Do i need
>>>> to just create a link on my desktop to the tiddlywiki folder? or html file?
>>>> Where oh where did my newly created tiddlers go?
>>>> I feel like Little Bo Peep.
>>>>
>>>> ADDENDUM:
>>>> by the way, when i opened the html file, it sent me here, with these
>>>> errors.
>>>> [image: 2019-06-29 19_37_28-TiddlyWiki — errorplugins.png]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [image: 2019-06-29 20_40_00-.png]
>>>> ADDENDUM AGAIN: okay, i guess i was being a noob. i did find the
>>>> tiddlers i created under a tab in the sidebar. so guess they weren't lost,
>>>> I WAS. :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Still have the issue with the errors that pop up after adding plugins,
>>>> and also why i can't get the backstage button to work like it did
>>>> before.... could use help with that.
>>>>
>>>>
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