Mark & Dave I think that Mark S. understanding of this is pretty much unique.
His ability to combine filters is really outstanding. He IS the documentation of practice needed ... can we write it up? My tuppence TT On Thursday, 5 September 2019 16:06:45 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote: > > Hi Dave, > > In database design you're not supposed to use a single field for more than > one job. But TW has at least 4 jobs built into it's "title" field. And > sometimes people > layer on additional tasks like "datestamp" Thus there is a constant source > of tension, as people try to work around the problems caused by this > structure. > > Since "title" is the only guaranteed unique field, the "real" job of the > title is provide a unique ID. So other fields should be used for display, > system status, dates, etc. > But of course, the title field is right in front of you, so it's hard not > to use it for display, search, status etc. But I digress. > > Here's a lister that sorts your Spanish words (it removes the prefix, > sorts, puts the prefix back on) : > > <$list filter="[tag[spanish]removeprefix[el ]] > [tag[spanish]removeprefix[la ]] +[sort[]]" variable="word"> > <$list filter="[<word>addprefix[la ]tag[spanish]] [<word>addprefix[el > ]tag[spanish]]"> > > </$list> > </$list> > > When I first took Spanish, they told us that terms like "rr", "ll" and > "ch" were to be considered as separate letters. I always thought what a > night-mare > that must make for programmers working in Spanish. My understanding is > that the Spanish Academy (excuse me if that's not the right term) has > changed those rules. > > Thanks! > -- Mark > > On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 6:19:05 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote: >> >> Only slightly on topic...My title-vs-text issue has to do with >> alphabetization in lists, especially in Spanish. In English we don't put >> articles in front of abstract nouns. So a list of tiddlers of virtues might >> include Courage, Patience, Self-control, Wisdom. No problem. But in Spanish >> it would be La valentia, la paciencia, el dominio propio, la sabiduria. So >> an alphabetical list would end up ordering the articles (el and la). Makes >> it hard to find things in a list unless you use the list-search plugin, >> which sometimes I don't want to do. >> >> At times I have added an 'order'field, added the term without the article >> and sorted by order or filename. And I have done it the other way around, >> where the tiddler title is Sabiduria, and a 'viewtitle' field is 'La >> sabiduría', and I hide the title and show the viewtitle field. That way >> searches and lists are in alphabetical order, and exporting to static >> avoids all the %20's, etc. >> >> And, more on topic, I have often had systems that created tiddlers with >> datetimestamps, so that the title IS irrelevant, and I can use 'newhere' to >> generate individual notes on a topic that transclude to the parent topic. >> The problem of course is that searches turn up datetimestamps, and ordering >> thoughts in a topic requires opening them and giving them titles in a >> specific order. >> >> Dave >> >> On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 5:30:38 AM UTC-5, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: >>> >>> This is one of those offtopic/ontopic things. >>> >>> The filtering mechanism in TW is very orientated to "titles first". >>> >>> MY problem is that I often have *TEXT that is more meaningful than its >>> title*. >>> The title is merely a placeholder (till later). >>> >>> For instance ... >>> >>> Title: "Working Title #247" >>>> Text: "When Willowy goes for donuts the cicadas sing. >>>> In harmony." >>> >>> >>> Title: "Working Title #595" >>>> Text: "Willowy is an instrument of >>>> Thomos The Third." >>> >>> >>> 1 - How do I SEE all lines containing "Willowy"? >>> >>> 2 - How do I correct "Willowy" to "Willowby"? >>> >>> You see here the *irrelevance* of "Title", yes? >>> >>> Is TW a *text-base* or a *title-base?* >>> >>> TT >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/95e1f452-08ca-4969-ab8e-a3fef4851778%40googlegroups.com.
