"That sounds like you do not expect other developers to analyze or even
contribute to the core"

Actually my expectation is not that people don't look at the core, but
that people don't look at the history.

>From a personal point of view I practically never look at source code
history, other than immediate history (that is the bit of history I've
created while I'm working on a particular feature or bug fix). I'm not
talking just about TiddlyWiki, but about every software project I have
ever worked on. This is also true of many/most of the developers I
have worked with.

I personally find that there is no point in looking at history to
understand a bit of code, whether it is to fix a bug or implement a
new feature.

In my view source code history is a bit like credit card slips - you
look at this month's slips when you reconcile your credit card bill,
but never look at them again.

To me the desire to keep history is a bit like the desire some people
have to keep their old credit card slips: "Oh no, we can't throw them
away."

So my desire for a clean start in git is no more than my desire to
throw away that pile of credit card slips sitting in the corner. But
as I said if there really are people who want to look at them, I happy
to keep them. But I'm not happy to keep them if there are just a few
people saying "those credit card slips might come in useful sometime
in the future."

Martin

On 7 February 2011 19:27, FND <[email protected]> wrote:
>> One of the reasons I'm in favour of not importing the history into git
>> is that a clean repository is in some ways attractive to new users.
>> I'm in particular thinking of a friend of Paul's who was interested in
>> doing some work on TiddlyWiki, but didn't bother in the end because
>> the repository took so long to download.
>
> As you've already stated, that won't be an issue anymore once there's a
> separate repository for the core. Indeed, that new repo will be tiny
> compared to most serious projects. In other words, My Hair is a Bird.
>
>> What I am wary of here is policy being influenced by people who are
>> not affected by the policy.
>
> That sounds like you do not expect other developers to analyze or even
> contribute to the core. As stated earlier*, this notion is a massive
> problem of and in this community.
>
>> In other words do Fred and Eric want the history in git because:
>> a) moving the history to git is "a good thing"
>> or
>> b) they actually look at the history quite often, and not moving the
>> history to git would be an inconvenience
>
> Both, but primarily (b) - so I *do* expect being directly affected, both
> as a (potential) core and third-party developer.
>
> Just for the record, IMO even (a) would be sufficient, as the cost of
> retaining history is negligible.
>
>
> -- F.
>
>
> * http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev/msg/603776133060a464
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