Hi Paul > Anyone, including you can do this as of now. But it would be a fork, > require a lot of changes to work around the use of embedded and > evaluated JavaScript, which are inappropriate in a shared JavaScript > environment, and then have to track Eric's changes in TiddlyTools. > I am using "config.evaluateMacroParameters = "full"; " on (almost) all my TiddlySpace unstances - to be able to do things I couldn't do otherwise.. I've read somewhere that Eric has started the proces of rewriting all of his transclusions into "real" plugins over the next few months(just can't find the statement right now, however its quite new..) I sincerely hope that this "translation" (to some extent) can/will remove the need of having to use "insecure tweaks" to make a TiddlySpace just as "good" for personal production as a normal TiddlyWiki.... To me one of the "core-attractions" of TW is the ability to "fork" almost anything into what ever you'll need at a given moment. I'd also expect to be able to investigate other TWs and learn from them ->
Your TiddlySlidy & Jon's FamilyTree (chance is that I'm getting a little unclear, maybe even offtopic, please excuse me if I am. Remember: my perspective is not that of a developer....) When I tried your TiddlySlidy for the first time, I was impressed by it's "simple" yet beautiful UI - and spent a few months trying to make my own version, wanting to add some things that I've learnt from using Paolo Soares' SlideShowPlugin, Mario's JQueryUIDragDropSelectSortPlugin and Eric's slideShowTimer (transclusion) and learn from your great example. However I came to the conlusion that TiddlySlidy is not very easy to "break apart" and reuse in a new context. Some of it's internals are somewhat "hidden" and dependencies are obscure (maybe thats just me not looking deep enough ....) - and I do understand your choice, if you meant to create an application that is simple to use for a "not-TW-sawy" user - and show that it is possible to create a powerpointclone with a TW, which has some of the characteristics that powerpointusers would expect from a similar software... My point here is that I would love to be able to fork TiddlySlidy - or reuse any of the "killerfeatures" (maybe just some of the css) it has, and combine them with options and plugins that I know from other circumstances... One of the reasons why tiddlytools is so appealing is the fact that it is what it says: "small tools for big ideas". Sometimes, as a "normal" user I would like to be able to create a (maybe) big tool built from my own small ideas. I do understand that developing new tools needs time and an environment where a programmer can concentrate on the creative process, use all his programming skills, not having to document every step he takes.. (That *would* surely be a killer...) However as a user, who loves TW for it's tweakability, I'd expect some kind of a follow up after a finished project like TiddlySlidy or FamilyTree - sth like a "do it yourself from a normal TW" - recipe. That would be really, really nice :-) I think that most of the great community contributors of the past. BidiX, Saq, Paolo Soares, Morris Gray etc... has done exactly that: crystalized their plugins into some kind of repository - and passed them on to the community in a form which was digestable for nonprogrammers... I see this legacy is "kept alive" when I watch the great work made by PMario and Tobias. Please learn from the history of the TWcommunity - I'm sure the community will want to learn from you. Please don't get me wrong... I think you are doing a great job - setting new standards - showing new ways to do things the TS-way ;-) Quite an accomplishment. Congratulations!! As a user I simply want/wish for a more coherent experience, - and that I can use some (if not all) of my experience from using the community provided tools, to understand - or maybe even adopt some of the cutting edge tools provided by TS and Osmosoft.. I hope that I'm not asking too much - please correct me if I am.. Cheers Måns Mårtensson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWikiDev" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev?hl=en.
