On Feb 12, 1:57 am, Måns <[email protected]> wrote:
> .... At the very beginning there were some posts in the
> > group. But since several month. Nothing ... Either, the users don't
> > use these plugins anymore, or they got them fixed. There was no need
> > to stop the core.
>
> I don't agree :-)
Thx Måns, I hoped I can tickle you.

> IMHO:
>
> I was one of those users, who tried to make some of the most vital (to me at
> least...) plugins/transclusions work on TS.
> I managed to fix a few (two or three in all... "TiddlerNotesPlugin",
> "QuickNotes","CreateTiddlersFromCSV" and maybe one more - don't remember..)
> The reason why I haven't kept on reporting incompabilities on the TiddlyWeb
> group - is the fact that most of these discussions now take place on the
> TiddlyWiki usergroup instead.
I did follow some of the treads, and they seemed to solve there
problems.

> My hope or vision if you like - (initially) was that most of Eric's
> (tiddlytools) great plugins (especially import/export UI's and features)
> would be acknowleged as a standard which users of TiddlyWiki have come to
> expect from TiddlyWiki, and therefore investigated and copied into
> TiddlySpace by TS core developers...
I don't think, TS devs are responsible for this.
Eric's site state:
"There are 447 tiddlers, including:115 plugins+76
transclusions(2038607 total bytes)"
And I haven't seen indications, that Eric want's to _move_ to TS.
There was a post from Eric, that most, or all transclusions (76) need
rewriting, because of the "evaluated parameter" security issue. That's
a hell lot of work.

And .. As I understand tiddlytools "Terms of use" first paragraph
[1],  imo it clearly explains, not to do so.

> New social channels ...
> From my adventures in TS-land I've discovered that there's a genuine wish to
> create new "social channels" around the "TiddlyWikiProject"  and I hope that
> Eric (or his Legacy) won't get lost in the process. I really wish that Eric
> would get into the TS-game.
@Eric, Can you tell us your opinion?

snip
> Rating as a pointer:
> I wish we had a ratingsystem where everybody could vote for plugins to be
> tested against a beta-release, - then core-developers and/or
> plugin-developers  would know what to test and eventually fix anticipating a
> release meant for upgrade..
Activating the Community would be great. But I am a little bit
pessimistic about this. [2]. But I deffinitly think it's worth it :)

> I believe that Eric's standards for plugindocumentation and TiddlyTools
> itself could be simulated by TS in some form - I don't see why not...
Vote +1

-m

[1] http://www.tiddlytools.com/#LegalStatements
[2] http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/msg/569d7f8cd66b71f1?hl=en

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