Hi Jeremy,

checked that. AndTidWiki changes saveFile function: its test is the 
following

function (fileUrl,content) {
    return window.twi.saveFile(fileUrl,content);
}

so presumably to make TW5 work with ATW, one should use that 
window.twi.saveFile interface in the TW5 saving engine.

Best regards,
Yakov.

четверг, 15 августа 2013 г., 11:13:21 UTC+4 пользователь Jeremy Ruston 
написал:
>
> Hi Yakov
>
> There are two ways that TiddlyWiki can interact with a server:
>
> 1. By saving the entire file to the server (this is how TiddlySpot works, 
> and the iPhone/iPad app TWEdit)
> 2. By syncing changes to individual tiddlers to the server (this is how 
> TiddlyWeb/TiddlySpace works)
>
> I would expect AndTidWiki to work using the first technique. Typically 
> that would be done by injecting code that overrides the saveChanges 
> function, or the lower level saveFile/loadFile functions.
>
> You can see an example of the technique in the source to TiddlyFox. This 
> is the javascript file that TiddlyFox injects into TiddlyWiki documents:
>
> https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlyFox/blob/master/content/inject.js
>
> You can see the internal functions being overridden at lines 50 to 53.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Yakov <[email protected]<javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> пятница, 2 августа 2013 г., 14:27:41 UTC+4 пользователь Jeremy Ruston 
>> написал:
>>
>>> понедельник, 29 июля 2013 г., 15:43:02 UTC+4 пользователь Arlen Beiler 
>>>> написал:
>>>>
>>>>> Using TiddlyWiki5 which I just downloaded in AndTidWiki, I can edit 
>>>>> fine, but when I try to save it, I get an Internal Javascript Error. 
>>>>> "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot call method 'getItem' of null".
>>>>>
>>>>> That's unfortunate. Theoretically it's possible to "emulate" the 
>>>> saving engine of TWc in TW5 by a plugin, but that's far from my knowledge 
>>>> (I haven't researched TW5 core yet, and also don't quite understand how 
>>>> ATW 
>>>> and TW interact).
>>>>
>>>
>>> I agree that we should be able to make TW5 work with the existing 
>>> AndTidWiki app. I don't have an Android device for testing, and have had 
>>> bad experiences in the past with the poor performance of the Android 
>>> emulator. So I'd be very grateful if anyone can help with information on 
>>> the way that AndTidWiki works.
>>>
>>> Hi Jeremy,
>>
>> I'm not familiar with how TiddlyWiki interacts with any server side, so 
>> may be you can help me with that first..
>>
>> the chain
>> config.macros.saveChanges.onClick - saveChanges - saveMain - saveFile - 
>> ...
>> doesn't seem to have anything that's "awaiting" server side, so
>>
>> my only guess on where server side can jump in is
>>
>> TiddlyWiki.prototype.allTiddlersAsHtml - TiddlyWiki.prototype.getSaver - 
>> TW21Saver/some other saver - .externalize - .externalizeTiddler
>>
>> so is it true that usually server sides create their own SaverBase 
>> instance with their own externalizeTiddler method and change 
>> TiddlyWiki.prototype.getSaver and that's how they make TW use some new 
>> functionality to save? Or is it done somehow else?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Yakov.
>>  
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 4:39 AM, Yakov <yakov.litv...@gmail.**com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Leo,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> by the way, have you tried AndTidWiki? As for now, I only use 
>>>>>> TiddlyWiki Classic on Android, so don't know if TW5 works with it. As a 
>>>>>> side note: with AndTidWiki, I only have to add ToggleLeft/RightSidebar 
>>>>>> [1], 
>>>>>> add a line-menu on top by changing PageTemplate and a few CSS 
>>>>>> adjustments, 
>>>>>> while FireFox needs some more work on styles (in fact, I need to create 
>>>>>> a 
>>>>>> plugin which will apply different styles depending on what "browser" 
>>>>>> opened 
>>>>>> TW).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Yakov.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] http://tiddlytools.com/#**Toggle**RightSidebar%**
>>>>>> 20ToggleLeftSideb**ar<http://tiddlytools.com/#ToggleRightSidebar%20ToggleLeftSidebar>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> вторник, 16 июля 2013 г., 8:54:26 UTC+4 пользователь Leo Staley 
>>>>>> написал:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Thank you Eric! I didn't know how to do that from my Android. 
>>>>>>> Firefox didn't install it when I clicked on it like I thought it should 
>>>>>>> have.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After downloading it with another browser (because firefox didn't 
>>>>>>> let me "save link" on long-press) and opening the file using firefox, I 
>>>>>>> was 
>>>>>>> able to install it. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sadly though, no "save" button appears under the tools menu. The 
>>>>>>> button at the top, to download a copy of the page worked once, but i'm 
>>>>>>> having trouble doing it again.  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Additionally, when i create a new tiddler, I first have to delete 
>>>>>>> the existing text in both the title and the main text area, which takes 
>>>>>>> some time with an android keyboard. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eric, How compatible are most of the items on TiddlyTools with 
>>>>>>> Tiddly5? Is development still continuing with the current edition of 
>>>>>>> Tiddlywiki, and if so, in what Capacity? Forgive me for being such a 
>>>>>>> noob. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, July 15, 2013 9:15:47 PM UTC-7, Eric Shulman wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 15, 2013 9:13:16 PM UTC-7, Leo Staley wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> More significantly, There was no way to save any changes I made. 
>>>>>>>>> Took me a while to realize that. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As Jeremy noted in his previous post:
>>>>>>>>    "... install TiddlyFox to save changes locally on the device (
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/TiddlyWiki**/TiddlyFox/raw/master/tiddlyfo**
>>>>>>>> x.xpi<https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlyFox/raw/master/tiddlyfox.xpi>
>>>>>>>> )."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> enjoy,
>>>>>>>> -e
>>>>>>>> Eric Shulman
>>>>>>>> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HELP ME TO HELP YOU - MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO MY "TIP JAR"...
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>> http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#D**onations<http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#Donations>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Professional TiddlyWiki Consulting Services...
>>>>>>>> Analysis, Design, and Custom Solutions:
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>> http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#C**ontact<http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#Contact>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>
>
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