The current version of TiddlyWiki5 does not work with Android OS 2.3.3! I tried to open http://five.tiddlywiki.com/ with the browser by OS and not with AndTidWiki in an android emulator with OS version 2.3.3. and get following internal javascript error.
"Error executing boot module $:/core/modules/widgets/import.js: SyntaxError: Parse error" AndTidWiki cannot handle TiddlyWiki if the core browser is not be able to open this file without any error! Am Samstag, 24. August 2013 19:55:32 UTC+2 schrieb Jeremy Ruston: > > >>> Yes, looks like that's the case. Like I said, that's in Android 2.3, and >> the built-in browser is hardly up-to-date. On another device, with Android >> 4.0.3, SVGs are displayed and saving works. So may some text fallback aka >> "graceful degradation"? >> > > Yes, it would be useful if SVGs degraded somehow.... I'll give it some > thought. > > Best wishes > > Jeremy > >> >> >>> Best wishes >>> >>> Jeremy >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Yakov. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes >>>>> >>>>> Jeremy >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Yakov <yakov.litv...@gmail.**com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Jeremy, >>>>>> >>>>>> what's the usual way of getting TW5? I've saved the page of [1] via >>>>>> FireFox (which brought an .htm) and that instance is not able to save >>>>>> (TiddlyFox sais >>>>>> >>>>>> [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 >>>>>> (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsILocalFile.create]" nsresult: "0x80004005 >>>>>> (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)" location: "JS frame :: chrome://tiddlyfox/content/ >>>>>> **ove**rlay.js :: TiddlyFox.saveFile :: line 96" data: no] >>>>>> >>>>>> on an attempt to save; I accepted TiddlyFox to save when the prompt >>>>>> appeared onload). Can't see any "download" button at [1] :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> Yakov. >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] five.tiddlywiki.com >>>>>> >>>>>> понедельник, 19 августа 2013 г., 16:57:42 UTC+4 пользователь Jeremy >>>>>> Ruston написал: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Yakov >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for that. I've committed a first pass at a saver for >>>>>>> AndTidWiki to GitHub and five.tiddlywiki.com, I'd be very grateful >>>>>>> if you could give it a go. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The code is here: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://github.com/Jermolene/**T****iddlyWiki5/commit/**1fd59a4bd312 >>>>>>> ****ead20251da80dd7bce**b52f9c2bb0<https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/1fd59a4bd312ead20251da80dd7bceb52f9c2bb0> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best wishes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jeremy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Yakov >>>>>>> <yakov.litv...@gmail.**com>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Jeremy, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> четверг, 15 августа 2013 г., 21:34:50 UTC+4 пользователь Jeremy >>>>>>>> Ruston написал: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Yakov >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> checked that. AndTidWiki changes saveFile function: its test is >>>>>>>>>> the following >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> function (fileUrl,content) { >>>>>>>>>> return window.twi.saveFile(fileUrl,**co******ntent); >>>>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> so presumably to make TW5 work with ATW, one should use that >>>>>>>>>> window.twi.saveFile interface in the TW5 saving engine. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That's great. There's two other things we need to figure out: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1) How AndTidWiki detects a TiddlyWiki document to determine if it >>>>>>>>> should inject it's code (it's possible that it injects it's code into >>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>> HTML files, not just specifically TiddlyWikis). Right now TW5 is >>>>>>>>> unlikely >>>>>>>>> to be detected as a TiddlyWiki file. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I wouldn't expect ATW somehow detect a TW file. And my test >>>>>>>> somewhat confirms this: an html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <html> >>>>>>>> <body> >>>>>>>> <p><a href="javascript:;" onclick=' >>>>>>>> alert(saveFile); >>>>>>>> '>let's try</a></p> >>>>>>>> </body> >>>>>>>> </html> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> shows the save text of saveFile onclick. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2) How the fileUrl parameter has been mangled and encoded by the >>>>>>>>> time that the saveFile() function is called. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well, the simplest idea for this is to create a function that >>>>>>>> copies the way the path is formed in TWc in saveChanges before it >>>>>>>> is passed to saveFile, isn't it? According to the current core >>>>>>>> code, that would be >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> var originalPath = document.location.toString(); // not netscape, >>>>>>>> convertUriToUTF8 >>>>>>>> is not needed in ATW >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> // Remove any location or query part of the URL >>>>>>>> var argPos = originalPath.indexOf("?"); >>>>>>>> if(argPos != -1) >>>>>>>> originalPath = originalPath.substr(0,argPos); >>>>>>>> var hashPos = originalPath.indexOf("#"); >>>>>>>> if(hashPos != -1) >>>>>>>> originalPath = originalPath.substr(0,hashPos)******; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> // Convert file://localhost/ to file:/// (is not needed >>>>>>>> in ATW) >>>>>>>> if(originalPath.indexOf("file:******//localhost/") == 0) >>>>>>>> originalPath = "file://" + originalPath.substr(16); >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> // Convert to a native file format (in ATW, the >>>>>>>> third case takes place) >>>>>>>> //# "file:///x:/path/path/path..." - pc local file --> >>>>>>>> "x:\path\path\path..." >>>>>>>> //# "file://///server/share/path/**p****ath/path..." - FireFox pc >>>>>>>> network file --> "\\server\share\path\path\**path****..." >>>>>>>> //# "file:///path/path/path..." - mac/unix local file --> >>>>>>>> "/path/path/path..." >>>>>>>> //# "file://server/share/path/**path****/path..." - pc network >>>>>>>> file --> "\\server\share\path\path\**path****..." >>>>>>>> var localPath; >>>>>>>> if(originalPath.charAt(9) == ":") // pc local file >>>>>>>> localPath = unescape(originalPath.substr(**8****)).replace(new >>>>>>>> RegExp("/","g"),"\\"); >>>>>>>> else if(originalPath.indexOf("file:******/////") == 0) // FireFox >>>>>>>> pc network file >>>>>>>> localPath = "\\\\" + >>>>>>>> unescape(originalPath.substr(**1****0)).replace(new >>>>>>>> RegExp("/","g"),"\\"); >>>>>>>> else if(originalPath.indexOf("file:******///") == 0) // mac/unix >>>>>>>> local file >>>>>>>> localPath = unescape(originalPath.substr(**7****)); >>>>>>>> else if(originalPath.indexOf("file:******/") == 0) // mac/unix >>>>>>>> local file >>>>>>>> localPath = unescape(originalPath.substr(**5****)); >>>>>>>> else // pc network file >>>>>>>> localPath = "\\\\" + >>>>>>>> unescape(originalPath.substr(**7****)).replace(new >>>>>>>> RegExp("/","g"),"\\"); >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> return localPath; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So probably this can be shortened further (cut unnecessary cases, >>>>>>>> localhost cut etc). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A quick hack to determine the answer to (2) would be if you could >>>>>>>>> modify a TW classic file to insert "alert(localPath)" just before the >>>>>>>>> call >>>>>>>>> to saveFile() in the saveMain() function. Then can you attempt a save >>>>>>>>> under >>>>>>>>> AndTidWiki, and note the path that is alerted. Ideally, could you >>>>>>>>> include a >>>>>>>>> character like "%" in the filename. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> An example of originalPath is "file:///mnt/sdcard/...../atw >>>>>>>> test.html" and the corresponding localPath is >>>>>>>> "/mnt/sdcard/...../atw test.html". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>> Yakov. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm not sure how to deal with (1); if you can help with (2) I'll >>>>>>>>> create an exploratory TW5 saver for AndTidWiki and we can experiment >>>>>>>>> further. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Many thanks, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jeremy >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>> Yakov. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> четверг, 15 августа 2013 г., 11:13:21 UTC+4 пользователь Jeremy >>>>>>>>>> Ruston написал: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Yakov >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> There are two ways that TiddlyWiki can interact with a server: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1. By saving the entire file to the server (this is how >>>>>>>>>>> TiddlySpot works, and the iPhone/iPad app TWEdit) >>>>>>>>>>> 2. By syncing changes to individual tiddlers to the server (this >>>>>>>>>>> is how TiddlyWeb/TiddlySpace works) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I would expect AndTidWiki to work using the first technique. >>>>>>>>>>> Typically that would be done by injecting code that overrides the >>>>>>>>>>> saveChanges function, or the lower level saveFile/loadFile >>>>>>>>>>> functions. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You can see an example of the technique in the source to >>>>>>>>>>> TiddlyFox. This is the javascript file that TiddlyFox injects into >>>>>>>>>>> TiddlyWiki documents: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/********** >>>>>>>>>>> TiddlyFox/blob/master/content/**********inject.js<https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlyFox/blob/master/content/inject.js> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You can see the internal functions being overridden at lines 50 >>>>>>>>>>> to 53. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Yakov <yakov.litv...@gmail.** >>>>>>>>>>> com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> пятница, 2 августа 2013 г., 14:27:41 UTC+4 пользователь Jeremy >>>>>>>>>>>> Ruston написал: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> понедельник, 29 июля 2013 г., 15:43:02 UTC+4 пользователь >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arlen Beiler написал: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using TiddlyWiki5 which I just downloaded in AndTidWiki, I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can edit fine, but when I try to save it, I get an Internal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Javascript >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Error. "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot call method 'getItem' of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> null". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's unfortunate. Theoretically it's possible to "emulate" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the saving engine of TWc in TW5 by a plugin, but that's far from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge (I haven't researched TW5 core yet, and also don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite >>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand how ATW and TW interact). >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree that we should be able to make TW5 work with the >>>>>>>>>>>>> existing AndTidWiki app. I don't have an Android device for >>>>>>>>>>>>> testing, and >>>>>>>>>>>>> have had bad experiences in the past with the poor performance of >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Android emulator. So I'd be very grateful if anyone can help with >>>>>>>>>>>>> information on the way that AndTidWiki works. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jeremy, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not familiar with how TiddlyWiki interacts with any server >>>>>>>>>>>> side, so may be you can help me with that first.. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the chain >>>>>>>>>>>> config.macros.saveChanges.**onCl********ick - saveChanges - >>>>>>>>>>>> saveMain - saveFile - ... >>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have anything that's "awaiting" server side, so >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> my only guess on where server side can jump in is >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> TiddlyWiki.prototype.**allTiddle********rsAsHtml - >>>>>>>>>>>> TiddlyWiki.prototype.getSaver - TW21Saver/some other saver - >>>>>>>>>>>> .externalize - >>>>>>>>>>>> .externalizeTiddler >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> so is it true that usually server sides create their own >>>>>>>>>>>> SaverBase instance with their own externalizeTiddler method and >>>>>>>>>>>> change >>>>>>>>>>>> TiddlyWiki.prototype.getSaver and that's how they make TW use some >>>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>>> functionality to save? Or is it done somehow else? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> Yakov. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 4:39 AM, Yakov <yakov.litv...@gmail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Leo, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by the way, have you tried AndTidWiki? As for now, I only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use TiddlyWiki Classic on Android, so don't know if TW5 works >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with it. As a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side note: with AndTidWiki, I only have to add >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ToggleLeft/RightSidebar [1], >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add a line-menu on top by changing PageTemplate and a few CSS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjustments, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while FireFox needs some more work on styles (in fact, I need >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to create a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugin which will apply different styles depending on what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "browser" opened >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TW). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yakov. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://tiddlytools.com/#**Toggle************ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RightSidebar%**20ToggleLeftSideb************ar<http://tiddlytools.com/#ToggleRightSidebar%20ToggleLeftSidebar> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> вторник, 16 июля 2013 г., 8:54:26 UTC+4 пользователь Leo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Staley написал: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Eric! I didn't know how to do that from my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Android. Firefox didn't install it when I clicked on it like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should have. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After downloading it with another browser (because firefox >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't let me "save link" on long-press) and opening the file >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> firefox, I was able to install it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly though, no "save" button appears under the tools >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> menu. The button at the top, to download a copy of the page >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked once, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but i'm having trouble doing it again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally, when i create a new tiddler, I first have to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delete the existing text in both the title and the main text >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> area, which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> takes some time with an android keyboard. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eric, How compatible are most of the items on TiddlyTools >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Tiddly5? Is development still continuing with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current edition of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tiddlywiki, and if so, in what Capacity? Forgive me for being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such a noob. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 15, 2013 9:15:47 PM UTC-7, Eric Shulman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 15, 2013 9:13:16 PM UTC-7, Leo Staley >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More significantly, There was no way to save any changes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I made. Took me a while to realize that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As Jeremy noted in his previous post: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "... install TiddlyFox to save changes locally on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> device (https://github.com/TiddlyWiki************ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /TiddlyFox/raw/master/tiddlyfo************x.xpi<https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlyFox/raw/master/tiddlyfox.xpi> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> )." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enjoy, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -e >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eric Shulman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HELP ME TO HELP YOU - MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO MY "TIP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JAR"... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#D************onations<http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#Donations> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional TiddlyWiki Consulting Services... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Analysis, Design, and Custom Solutions: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#C************ontact<http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#Contact> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy Ruston >>>>>>>>>>> mailto:[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Jeremy Ruston >>>>>>>>> mailto:[email protected] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Jeremy Ruston >>>>>>> mailto:[email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Jeremy Ruston >>>>> mailto:[email protected] >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jeremy Ruston >>> mailto:[email protected] >>> >> > > > -- > Jeremy Ruston > mailto:[email protected] <javascript:> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWikiDev" group. 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