At 05:16 PM 7/4/2005, M. Warner Losh wrote...
>Leap days are predictable.  Leap seconds aren't.  Everyone deals with
>leap days because they have been around for thousands of years.  Leap
>seconds haven't and are random.  That's a fundamental difference.

Which I didn't deny and in fact pointed out. (Although the current system of 
leap years has been around less than 500 years, not thousands.)

You would apparently delay the issue for someone in the future to deal with, at 
which point they would curse you, just as we in the late 1990's cursed those 
who thought 2 digit years were sufficient. There were significant numbers of 
systems that were fortunate that the year 2000 followed a meta-meta-exception 
to the "4 year" leap year rules, and therefore did things "correctly," despite 
doing so for the wrong reason.

Civil time (i.e. the time most people actually use) is more valuable in every 
sense than any/all analytical timekeeping. There is a very real need to keep 
civil time in proper order. Those who keep analytical time chose to base their 
measure on civil time. It therefore behooves them to adapt and not demand that 
the tail wag the dog.

At some point, civil necessity demands that the "randomness" be addressed, 
whether the systems are allowed to slip 1 second, 1 minute or 1 hour (I note 
you DID NOT answer the very real question of how large that slip should be 
allowed to be). Eliminating leap seconds does absolutely nothing to resolve the 
real issue, it only postpones the need to deal with it. I submit it's better to 
do it now, correctly, than simply postpone the issue for someone else to deal 
with. Having once created systems which can handle leap seconds at arbitrary 
times (not even limited to twice yearly as is current convention), the problem 
is resolved, "forever." 


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