At 8:46 PM -0600 7/24/05, Joseph Gray wrote:
I was thinking about ordering one of these: http://store.qkits.com/moreinfo.cfm/vk011 for measuring temperature inside, outside, and wherever. I think tracking the temperature as I take long term measurements would be a good idea.

I was wondering which is best: measuring the room temperature that the equipment is in, or measuring the temperature of the equipment itself. If the equipment, which spot? Some parts are much hotter than others (heatsinks for example). If room temperature, where in the room? The corner with all the equipment is warmer.

As for outside temperature, how should I house the sensor to protect it from the elements, yet not interfere with its measuring capability? For example, if I were to encase a sensor in epoxy, that would certainly cause a delay between the actual temperature change and when it was measured by the sensor.

Any other thoughts on the topic also welcome.

Joseph,

I had the joy of measuring the temperature of a big spectrometer system over the last 6 months to learn about its instabilities. I used self-adhesive chip RTD sensors from Minco feeding a National Instruments FieldPoint box. My experiences led me to the following:

1. The temperature of the equipment tends to be similar to its performance instabilities, but the time lag of the electronics is widely dependent on the airflow and mounting of the circuitry. I saw time lags of anywhere from 5 seconds to an hour in different parts of my spectrometer.

2. You may learn lots of interesting things about your air conditioning system. In my case, I learned that the building chiller system runs 24 hours a day, but the office heater coils were shut off from 11PM to 6AM (presumably to save power). This provided some nice temperature step functions to evaluate the time lags of the various electronics boxes.

3. The mounting of sensors with regard to time lag is only important if the circuitry is forced-air cooled. The time lag of the stuff in the box will be longer than that of the sensor if there's no air passing through. Room air is best measured at the air inlet to one of your electronics boxes.

4. To achieve decent stability of some moderately power-hungry electronics on the order of a minute, I had to modify the forced-air cooling to isolate room air from the air inside the box. This is perhaps not interesting to you, but it's very useful to know if you have circuit boards that dissipate a fair amount of heat yet need to be temperature-stabilized.

5. Outside air is best measured with a sensor glued to a small sheet of aluminum that's shielded from the sun yet has ready access to airflow. The size of the sheet determines the time lag of the sensor. Alternately, a small sensor with a ~1 second time lag may be hung in the air by its leads. Last year I built a gadget to measure atmospheric turbulence for telescope seeing, using micro thermocouples suspended in air. It had a couple hundred Hertz frequency response. Two of the sensors were destroyed in a rainstorm, at $40 each for repair.

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--David Forbes, Tucson, AZ
http://www.cathodecorner.com/

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