Don
Don Collie jnr wrote:
> Hello Bruce and all,
>     OK, now I think I understand : the more phase noise on the VCO, the more 
> jitter on the output of the divide by "N".
>     This output spectrum comprises *only* the PRF+ close-in noise sidebands 
> [plus harmonics, and their noise sidebands]. Since the lowest frequency 
> [ignoring close-in noise sidebands for a moment] present in the divide by "N"
> logic is equal to its output frequency anyway, there are no frequencies 
> present in the output that are below this,
May not true when there are spurs on the VCO output.
>  and because the loop rolls off at a frequency that is much less than this, 
> the VCO is not modulated by any signal comming from the reference, or the 
> divide by "N" logic ..The loop filter filters these signals out.This is how a 
> PLL can "clean up" jittery signals. So I guess one way to improve PLL phase 
> noise is to have as high a frequency going to the phase detector as possible, 
> and to have as low a loop bandwidth as possible, [and put up with a long lock 
> - in time]
Depends on the close in phase noise characteristics of the VCO and the 
reference.
> .Having now filtered out most of the jitter, the problem becomes one of 
> designing a VCO [or variable reluctance oscillator, as in a YIG], that 
> produces little phase noise of itself. This must be where the designers get 
> crafty! 
> Facinating stuff !,....................................................Don C.
>
>   
Minimising the tuning range of the VCO helps reduce phase noise 
contributed by varactors and other electronically variable reactance 
devices.

Bruce


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