Perhaps they changed the diodes used in MPD/RPD phase detectors over the years.

Minicircuits also make a ZP10514  which may use monolithic quad diodes.
These may be noisier at 100Hz offset than the genuine HP10514.

Bruce

Bob Camp wrote:
Hi

I checked a few newer RPD-1's (actually MPD-1's, but I believe they are the 
same thing). The two ones I have here from who knows where have about 20% more 
output (2.4 V p-p) than a typical unit (2.0 V p-p).

Bob


On Mar 3, 2010, at 10:56 PM, Bruce Griffiths wrote:

Whilst your corrected measurements for the 10534 and 10514 are now within about 
10% of those found by NIST for one of their mixers, the discrepancy with 
Minicircuits estimates for the RPD-1s is somewhat larger but their phase 
detector gain specs seem incompatible with their max output specs.

The noise of their phase detector output preamp is surprisingly high (maybe 
this is relatively unimportant as they use the cross power spectrum technique 
to measure phase noise?? ), even my crude single NJFET input stage preamplifier 
breadboard is about 3dB quieter.

Bruce

Bob Camp wrote:
Hi

There was a factor of two "oops" in the math. All the numbers are 2X reality.

Bob


On Feb 28, 2010, at 10:58 PM, Bruce Griffiths wrote:




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