On 29 October 2010 03:00, Marshall Eubanks <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Oct 28, 2010, at 9:30 AM, jimlux wrote:
>
>> Steve Rooke wrote:
>>> One thing we should bear in mind that our tombstone timestamp should
>>> have things like the timezone, and calendar in use, references, such
>>> that future people can determine the exact point in time of our death.
>>> In fact, basing the timestamp on some true reference point would
>>> better than about 2000 years after some event happened on earth as
>>> archaeologists from other words coming to the Earth in the future
>>> would be left to figure out this arbitrary time event. I would propose
>>> that we relate the year portion (which is the LSB and most important)
>>> to some celestial event thereby making it possible to document this
>>> easily for future life-forms to determine. The whole year/date thing
>>> really should be made secular as there is no place for religion in the
>>> governance of society.
>>> Steve
>>
>>
>> Is this not the same problem we all face when specifying an absolute time?  
>> Is it TAI? GPS? UTC? etc.
>>
>> And, then, if you are moving, the local time offsettime  relative to some 
>> reference might be different at different times.
>>
>> I think this is a sort of relativity question, isn't it?  That is, you just 
>> have to pick some place/time, and reference everything else to that.  So 
>> which astronomical event do you want use as your reference (e.g. a T=0 
>> epoch)and is it sufficiently well determined that you can figure it out 
>> later?  It's all well and good, for instance, to use noon on January 1st, 
>> 1900 or something as your time zero, but that's hardly a universally 
>> available reference point.
>
> Pulsar timing. List 20 or so millisecond pulsars with their current period 
> (don't forget to include information on the definition of the second!) and 
> their spin down rate, and you should be able to time things for some millions 
> of years (to some level). This was the technique used in the Voyager Golden 
> Record, except we didn't know about millisecond pulsars back then.
>
> I would also include the spin axis offsets and rotational period of the Earth 
> and Mars, which would also be useful and would make future
> geophysicists happy.

Or how about the alignment of a large number of the planets/sun/moon
that would only occur once in a blue moon but has occurred at some
point in the, hopefully, near lifetime of this planet. It would then
be possible to depict this event symbolically on the tombstone.

Steve

> Regards
> Marshall
>
>
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The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once.
- Einstein

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