Perrier,

Your simple idea is a non workable concept.  Instead of whining about the 
complexity, why not contact Bert or Paul Swed and see if one of them would do 
you a favor and build the item for you.  I do not believe the hookup part is 
that hard to do and if You follow instructions well it should be quite doable.

Bill....WBBNQ

Perry Sandeen wrote:

> Fellow Listers,
>
> Please read and think a bit about my comments before rushing to the reply 
> button.  The comments are meant to be technical.
>
> When Burt VE2ZAZ posted his HP 3586A/B/C entirely referenced to 10MHz: A 
> solution, I was drooling with envy to add it to my units.  However, after 
> reading what it took to make and program it I was completely deflated.
>
> While there are those on the list with extensive educational and technical 
> resources, Burt’s project may be just fine.  And for those who can make it, 
> go for it.  I made a pros and cons list.
>
> Advantages                       Dis-advantages
> Small- Will fit inside case      SMD Components
> Low power requirements           Needs Programming
> Inexpensive                      Program varies for various models
> Awesome build quality            Almost comes up with the correct numbers
>
> Sometimes the only way to solve a problem is with SMD’s, programmed devices 
> etc.  But I suspect that for most of us “solutions” of this type are 
> really impractical.  Some posts seem to suggest that everyone can program 
> devices, write code, and can work with SMD’s as easily as getting a 
> hamburger at Micky D’s.  It just ain’t so.  On my level I have to use the 
> KISS principle.
>
> Several alternative methods:
>
> The cheap method.  Turn the crystals 90 degrees so they are perpendicular to 
> the PC board.  Make a simple TL431 temperature regulated circuit (I found it 
> on the web by a google search) with a bit of copper and insulation.  A small 
> supplemental adjustable tuning capacitor and/or varicap circuit may be 
> needed.  It will probably get one as close as the original programmed mod 
> IMHO.
>
> The high priced exact solution.  Use a HP 3336 locked to the same external 
> standard one is using for the HP 3586B.  Remove the original crystal circuit 
> and inject the exact number one needs and get the exact results without any 
> dithering.
>
> I’m blessed to have almost all the test equipment, or its equivalents, 
> mentioned on this list sans a spectrum analyzer and from post’s that I have 
> read I’m way ahead of many of the members.
>
> I’ve been very impressed, and have learned a great deal, with the posts on 
> the T’bolts, answers to my posted qurstions, WWVB, and HP oscillator fine 
> tuning tips to name a few.
>
> On subjects over, or in many cases way over, my head I just read and delete 
> but others find them both fascinating and useful and that’s just fine.
>
> Regards,
>
> Perrier
>
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