On 6/11/12 10:31 PM, Hal Murray wrote:

albertson.ch...@gmail.com said:
But you know what?  If you simply place an automotive "puck" type GPS
antenna on your roof you have to do the same thing.  It must be grounded the
same way, same lightening protection and so on.   So in the end you may as
well put up a professional looking and permanent  steel mast.  It is not
that much more work.

What about putting a skylight high on the roof and putting the antenna up in
it?

What's magic about inside vs outside the roof/skylight envelope?

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I have a large pine tree out front.  It's roughly 3x the height of my (one
story) house.  What are the chances of any lightning hitting my house rather
than the tree?  What if I put an antenna on the top of my house so the tree
is only 2x the height of my antenna?

Of course, that depends on how far the tree is from my house.  Not far.  Call
it 45 degrees from the back of my house to the top of the tree.  An antenna
on the top of my house would probably be below that sight line.

Is there a good book or URL on lightning vs antennas?  Again, I'm interested
in both the technical issues as well as the local zoning/legal issues.


http://www.amazon.com/The-Art-Science-Lightning-Protection/dp/052187811X

Martin Uman and his collaborator Rakov have probably forgotten more about lightning than everyone on this list collectively knows about it. This one is a bit pricey still, but is the definitive tome.

A Dover Press version of Uman's "The Lightning Discharge" is <$20, and well worth the investment if you're interested in lightning.

Ronald Standler's book "Protection of Electronic Circuits from Overvoltages" is a great source on overvoltage protection in general. $20 in paperback. Lots of useful information on how to design/purchase transient suppression for all kinds of signals. And surprising information on how certain kinds of techniques can actually make things worse.



One wants to be careful about texts published by manufacturers of protection equipment. Yes, they typically have valid information, but it *is* coming from a source which wants you to "buy more stuff", so they tend to be a bit more conservative (more protection = better, even if the physics doesn't support it). That said, much of the high quality peer reviewed research on things like lightning rods (aka "air terminals") does come from companies making such things.

Also, there are several pubs out there widely distributed aimed at applications like FAA Control Towers or high reliability 24/7 land mobile radio. The recommendations in those books may prove to be somewhat of overkill for a couple reasons: most amateurs don't need that level of protection; the suggestions aren't always supported by the physics, but are there because "they don't hurt", triggering the "nobody got fired for buying IBM mainframes" phenomenon... if it's small differential cost, why not do it, because if we don't do it, and something goes wrong, we'll be blamed.



Legality wise

Nat Elec Code (aka NFPA70) has bonding and grounding requirements. Art 250 on grounding, Arts in the 800s on antennas. Expensive ($80-100) if you buy it, but since it forms the basis for California's Title 24 (State Electrical Code), a scanned version is online at https://public.resource.org/. The antenna grounding stuff doesn't change very much, so an older code found at a used book store might also work.

NFPA780 is the lightning protection code.

IEEE 1100 - The Emerald Book - is very useful on grounding, transient protection, etc. issues in general. Pretty expensive.. find it in a library.
http://standards.ieee.org/findstds/standard/1100-2005.html



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