Hi

….. and as long as C&R's are not something the FCC is going to play with -- you 
are stuck.

Bob


On Sep 27, 2012, at 8:09 PM, David <[email protected]> wrote:

> Presumably such a strategy would be applied against a HOA that has
> power over the restrictions.
> 
> I have not been following this subject for several years but
> apparently the FCC has released the report authorized by congress in
> 2012 and again found no need to take action:
> 
> http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2012/db0820/DA-12-1342A1.pdf
> 
> ". . . Therefore, at this time, we do not see a compelling reason for
> the Commission to revisit its previous determinations that preemption
> should not be expanded to CC&Rs."
> 
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 19:36:26 -0400, Bob Camp <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> The gotcha isn't the neighbors (who you can negotiate with) it's what ever 
>> entity enforces the title restrictions. With the recent dip in sales, that 
>> may be the original developer, still there a decade later ….
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:30 PM, David <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 18:59:48 -0400, Jeff Stevens <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Hal Murray <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> What do hams do in that environment?
>>>> 
>>>> Hams either avoid HOAs and deed restricted property or they live with
>>>> the restrictions by placing their antennas in attics and other
>>>> inconspicuous locations.  There have been attempts by hams to get the
>>>> FCC to somehow invalidate or limit deed restrictions and HOA rules
>>>> which prohibit antennas and towers which effectively prevent operation
>>>> of amateur stations but so far the FCC has steered clear.  While the
>>>> federal government DOES claim some limited preemption of local zoning
>>>> and municipal ordinances (PRB-1), I believe the FCC has chosen to stay
>>>> away from meddling with deed restrictions and HOA rules preferring to
>>>> consider them voluntary private contracts.  According to hams in some
>>>> parts of the country, however, they are far from voluntary as in some
>>>> areas so much of the residential real estate is deed restricted or
>>>> subject to HOAs that there is no practical alternative.  With that
>>>> said, I believe this year congress actually appropriated a few $100k
>>>> to "study the impact" of deed restrictions and HOAs on amateur
>>>> operations.
>>>> 
>>>> -Jeff
>>>> W7WWA
>>> 
>>> I have heard of cases where the HAM settled for hidden or attic
>>> antenna installations and the resulting interference with their
>>> neighbor's electronics was used to bargain for a more reasonable rule.
>>> 
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