Hi

The more interesting event is when you re-flash a +/- 1 us navigation receiver 
and it instantly becomes a < +/- 100 ns timing receiver *without* position hold 
engaged.

Bob


On Dec 29, 2012, at 10:20 PM, Said Jackson <[email protected]> wrote:

> Bob,
> 
> Our Position-Hold enabled units (Fury, Mini-JLT, various CSAC units, and 
> GPS-405 support accurate position reporting in ECEF, NMEA, and various other 
> standards.
> 
> Users can select how many fixes are averaged for the position report.
> 
> They can also be instantly switched back and forth between position hold, and 
> mobile mode using simple English SCPI commands. Some of them have built in 3 
> axis accelerometers that allow instant detection of when the vehicle starts 
> moving so it can be switched into mobile mode at that time.
> 
> We recently did a test by putting an antenna in a side window in the office 
> that had maybe 10% view of the sky, then let the unit run in mobile mode 
> while doing the auto survey. After two days, we switched it into position 
> hold mode. Most of the time it sees only one sat direct, all others are only 
> seen through multipath. The results are astonishing, SD went down from about 
> 30ns+ to about 8ns. Spikes to +/-150ns went away completely.
> 
> I can post some GPSCon graphs of this  significant improvement during the 
> test next week if there is interest.
> 
> Bye
> Said
> 
> Sent From iPhone
> 
> On Dec 29, 2012, at 18:56, Bob Camp <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> The interesting thing is that you sometimes can get a position hold receiver 
>> to report it's estimated location…. Not so much on current product, but on 
>> some of the old stuff.
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> On Dec 29, 2012, at 9:51 PM, Jim Lux <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 12/29/12 6:34 PM, Bob Camp wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>> 
>>>> The gotcha is that often the "navigation" and "timing" receivers are 
>>>> identical in terms of hardware. There is no upgraded hardware in the 
>>>> timing device.
>>>> 
>>>> When you put a receiver into position hold, you are telling it "I don't 
>>>> care about the location solution". It reduces the weight of that part of 
>>>> the filter. Yes, that's only one way to look at it and there are other 
>>>> ways to look at it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> or, another conceptual model is: I'm fixed, I know where the transmitting 
>>> satellite is, and can calculate range and doppler a priori, so anything 
>>> else must be local clock variation and propagation.  And you can average 
>>> out the propagation among multiple satellites (or use one satellite as your 
>>> timing reference)..
>>> 
>>> Particularly if you are post processing and have precise ephemeris data for 
>>> the satellites....
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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