Hi

Let it run for a couple of days. If it's still up at  > 11V, I'd tweak it down 
a bit.

Bob

On Feb 9, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Garren Davis <garren.da...@qlogic.com> wrote:

> Found my problem with the FRK. R31 on the Osc board was burned and open. This 
> was caused by a shorted C16. Replaced and it is now locked. The lock voltage 
> is 12.7v. Is this good or should it be lower?
> 
> Garren
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 9, 2013, at 6:10 AM, "Bob Camp" <li...@rtty.us> wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> How old is the FRK? Does it look like it's been run without a heat sink for 
>> very long? They tend to get flaky if run for a while (many months) without 
>> heat sinking. There's nothing mysterious about it. The MTBF of the parts 
>> gets noticeably worse as the unit heats up.
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> On Feb 9, 2013, at 1:09 AM, Garren Davis <garren.da...@qlogic.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Well for some reason the 10 Mhz stopped working on the FRK. Don't know why. 
>>> Started up the thunderbolt. It acquired satellites but then the DAC voltage 
>>> went to -5 volts. It's been there for an hour. Will this change after the 
>>> unit stabilizes? Going to bed. Will check it tomorrow.
>>> 
>>> Garren
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 8, 2013, at 8:25 PM, "Ed Palmer" <ed_pal...@sasktel.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Garren,
>>>> 
>>>> I suggest that you get the Thunderbolt working first.  Without a known 10 
>>>> MHz source to compare to, you're flying blind.  Once the Tbolt is running, 
>>>> you should be able to check the frequency of the FRK by feeding both into 
>>>> your scope.  Trigger on the Tbolt and watch what the FRK does.  You should 
>>>> see the trace scrolling in one direction, then slow down, then stop, then 
>>>> scroll the other direction.  The 'stop' point is at 10 MHz.  The frequency 
>>>> sweeps a total of 20-30 Hz so it's easy to see.  If you don't see the 
>>>> 'stop' point, the FRK isn't getting to 10 MHz.  Now use the best frequency 
>>>> counter you've got to measure the Tbolt.  Regardless of the calibration of 
>>>> your counter, the number your counter gives you becomes your 'new' 10 MHz. 
>>>>  Now measure the FRK to see if it's running fast or slow.
>>>> 
>>>> You should check the temperature of the lamp.  It's easy to get at by 
>>>> removing the cover in the center of the heat sink.  Probably best to 
>>>> remove the cover and then power down before you go poking around inside!  
>>>> The temperature of the cavity is also important, but getting to it is more 
>>>> of a hassle - don't go there if you don't have to.
>>>> 
>>>> Of course, check for the normal things like internal power supply 
>>>> voltages, ripple, current drain (both initial and steady-state), etc.
>>>> 
>>>> Regarding your second message, yes, the adjustment under the heat sink 
>>>> near the edge is the C-field.  That won't help you at this point.  The 
>>>> adjustment in the center of one side is the VCO.  You could try adjusting 
>>>> it, but like I said, you're flying blind at this point.  You won't know if 
>>>> you're adjusting closer to 10 MHz or further away.
>>>> 
>>>> Good luck,
>>>> 
>>>> Ed
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 2/8/2013 6:12 PM, Garren Davis wrote:
>>>>> Been lurking on the list for a while and finally started playing with a 
>>>>> FRK-L  rubidium frequency standard. I've had this thing for a while and 
>>>>> decided to power it up and see what it would do. I do not get a lock. 
>>>>> What I see is the lamp voltage at 8.54 volts which I think is good but 
>>>>> the xtal control voltage swings from 2 volts to 15 volts and back to 2 
>>>>> volts and keeps cycling like that. I don't have a good frequency counter 
>>>>> but I have a 3 Ghz 40 G/sample scope and it shows that the 10 MHz signal 
>>>>> is there. I just don't know how accurate it is. Has anyone seen a problem 
>>>>> like this? Can anyone point me to a place to start debugging this? I have 
>>>>> the schematics and test tools. I am a test engineer so I'm not afraid to 
>>>>> poke around in the guts of this thing. Hopefully I can get this thing 
>>>>> running. I also have a thunderbolt that I'll get running this weekend. I 
>>>>> don't know how deep I'll get into this time-nuts thing but I have this 
>>>>> nice scope and a Wavecrest sitting in my garage 
> a
>> n
>>> d
>>>> I'd lik
>>>> e to put them to use. Any help would be appreciated.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Garren
>>>> 
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