Hi

If the windows are of the permanently fixed variety - how about a rock …:)

Since most windows are likely pretty good sized, and this *is* a microwave 
conference …. how about some sort of meter square purpose built antenna? 

For the uber-exotic approach - modulate a laser with the GPS signal and move 
the signal through the window as light. 

Bob



On Apr 8, 2013, at 5:32 PM, Robert Atkinson <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Alan and Tom,
> Note that under the Wireless Telegraphy Act 2006  here in the UK, active GNSS 
> repeaters have to be licenced. See 
> http://194.33.160.59/radiocomms/ifi/enforcement/gpsrepeaters/
> and 
> http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/enforcement/spectrum-enforcement/gpsrepeaters/
> Even a "normal" active antenna connected to another antenna would qualify as 
> a repeater. Also the "transmit" antenna must be indoors so your through 
> window scheme is out. How about a strip of closed cell foam with a slit for 
> the coax  that you can trap in the window? This will allow the coax in while 
> keeping the drafts out.
> 
> Regards,
> Robert G8RPI.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Tom Van Baak <[email protected]>
> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Monday, 8 April 2013, 22:12
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna??
> 
> Alan,
> 
> Google for words like GPS re-radiator or GPS repeater. There are also units 
> on eBay. If not to buy, at least to study examples.
> 
> The one I have is made by www.gpssource.com but it seems you could build one 
> yourself. It's easy to test by looking at your indoor SV count and reception 
> levels. With patch antennae you don't have to worry about RHCP issues, right?
> 
> /tvb
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alan Melia" <[email protected]>
> To: "time-nuts measurement" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 9:59 AM
> Subject: [time-nuts] GPS antenna??
> 
> 
>> Hi all an interesting problem you may have encountered, I want to use a GPS 
>> frequency standard inside a building with no opening windows (opening 
>> windows are known as air conditioning in the UK :-))  )
>> This is part of a two day amateur microwave conference so we should have the 
>> expertise.
>> 
>> I intend to try and pass the signal through a a double glazed glass window 
>> unit (hopefully not metalised) using a couple of patch antennas. The outer 
>> GPS antenna is active so will need  a 5v supply via an inserter. Inner patch 
>> active, outer patch passive to avoid problems of feedback. Main antenna can 
>> be shielded from the "coupling" either physically or with a slab of 
>> absorber.
>> 
>> Has anyone tried this?.... does it work?.....any gotchas?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Alan
>> G3NYK 
> 
> 
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