I have enclosed a sketch of the usual way of using opto's to make an
RS232 like interface.  I haven't spent much time thinking, so I am sure
that I have a few things backwards, but you should get the gist of how
it is done.

It is only RS232 like because it has only a single threshold.

-Chuck Harris



Rex wrote:
FWIW, it was clear as mud for me too.

Bert began with, "Since joining time  nuts over four years ago I have not used a
single MAX
232 chip. Two  reasons MAX do not give me isolation and do generate  noise
in critical  applications."

 From that I took that he was doing RS232 using opto isolators. That implies + 
and -
voltages to me. Where do they come from and where are they relative to the 
isolation
boundary? If the goal is really isolation, how do these supplies get isolated? 
If the
noise is cured by isolation, these details seem important as the supplies need
isolation too. Maybe the switcher in the MAX232 is causing the noise. Then how 
do we
get a negative supply from, say, +5V without the noise? Then, maybe he was 
saying
RS232 sucks and this other way (not RS232 compatible) works better.

The word picture of Bert's solution, which provided more details, left me less 
much
less than clear too. Maybe I'm just not up on circuit shorthand terminology 
enough to
follow what sort of current limiter is limiting what current to what, and what 
is
being blocked by a diode from which negative level. Not really sure if I even 
got the
big picture of what he is describing. Is it an isolated equivalent of a MAX232
interface or something else that wouldn't talk to an RS232 device?

So, more clarification, or possibly that picture (~= 1k words) might help. Or 
maybe
I'm just obtuse and everyone else is getting it. (Seems Marki may also be in the
confused camp.)

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