Thanks Bob and Don,

Bob:
"An
 ideal GPS antenna would not have a lot of gain straight overhead. You 
have less atmospheric loss in that direction. What you would want is an 
antenna that has some gain at 30 to 60 degrees. That was the issue with 
the helix antennas. They have gain straight up (and thus less at other 
angles).:

OK, that makes sense.  I can certainly play with it so that the 30-60 degrees 
area gets the better signal.

Don:

"A "choke ring" or "feed choke ring" search will give you a lot of info. For 
cylindrical feeds, the phase origin can be taken as at the opening. So the 
patch height should be taken as the same placement as the opening of a 
cylindrical feed, at least for starters. Heck, start out by using what you find 
to determine the best size for a single ring. Sizes of things scale with 
frequency or wavelength linearly, so the best size of the pans you have can be 
calculated. The patch then goes just a little below the edge of the pan. You 
may want to cut the rim down or not,again scale a successful ring."

The searches I tried just weren't successful at what I was looking for.  You 
and Bob have given me more info in these two posts than scouring many pages of 
search returns.  The hits I've looked at say one of the following   1) choke 
rings are good for GPS,  2) use a choke ring antenna for GPS,  3) here is my 
comparison of these brands, or 4) here's the one I made but I'm not giving you 
enough information to duplicate it yourself, and I'm certainly not letting you 
see a decent picture of where things are placed.  It's frustrating - but it's a 
project and I'll learn something from what finally works best.


Bob
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