Hi Bert,

I would definitely be interested in a kit.

regards,
Paul     G8GJA

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Subject: [time-nuts] FE5680 GPS Disciplined Controller


FE5680 GPS Disciplined  Controller
With all the FE  5680 rubidium oscillators being used as door stops out there 
some of us decided  to develop a GPSDO for it. The main question we have:
Is there sufficient  interest among time nuts for a discipline controller for 
the FE5680 to make it  available? Looking at the postings over the last two 
years I am not so  sure.
The  construction and preliminary testing of a Brooks Shera style GPS 
discipline  controller for the later version (6.81e-13 resolution) of the 
FE5680 has been  completed. We are trying to determine the number of people 
that would be  interested in obtaining an FE5680 discipline controller (if 
there is sufficient  interest about $45 a kit shipping included, $75 for an 
assembled and tested  board, international orders for an additional $5) when it 
is released.
We are also looking for three Beta  testers that would be willing to purchase, 
assemble, and test our Beta release  controller kit with their own FE5680A and 
GPS receiver or Tbolt and provide  feedback. Please send an email to
[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])   Subject Time-Nuts FE 5680A,
if you would be interested in being one of the three  Beta testers. A key 
requirement is the willingness to get to it right away, the  board assembly 
takes about 30 minutes. Instrumentation to measure results is  also a 
requirement. We obtained impressive results using a cheap ublox 6M  receiver.

The  FE5680 GPS discipline controller is a small (2” x 2”) board using 8 DIP’s 
and 1  SOT23-5 package powered by +5v with 0.1” headers for all inputs and 
outputs. Our  plan is to have the kit supplier solder in the only SMD device on 
the board. A  GPS receiver 1PPS and 10 MHz sine from the FE5680 feed the board 
with two 9600  baud serial ports sending TTL level tuning commands to the 
FE5680 and receiving  commands from and sending status data to a PC for data 
logging and system  control via a simple terminal program.
In the chip count are  two opto couplers that allow the use of isolated TTL to 
USB conversion. These  USB adapters are readily available and furnish the 5 V 
necessary for the  secondary of the opto circuit. An option is to not use the 
opto couplers and  send the PIC TTL level RX and TX into a TTL to
RS232 adapter. Another option is  to use a TTL to RS232 converter after the 
opto couplers but then an external 5 V  source would have to be supplied for 
the opto couplers.
As I  mentioned before to get best performance from the FE5680 temperature 
control is  a must and after much fan and metal work I realized that a Lap Top 
heat pipe is  the easiest lowest cost solution. Comments appreciated. As an 
alternative the  temperature correction needs to be disabled.  Otherwise two 
control loops fight each  other.  If you look close on page 7  of the brochure 
temperature stability from –10 to +60 C looks good but a closer  look and you 
see 4 E-11 changes over small temperature changes in the -10 to 60 C range. 
Extensive analysis has been done on the FE 5680 A and maybe some one  can 
tackle that problem. Please look at what N5TNL did. It is attached and click  
on his link. The FE 5680A does have a 4 channel MAX 1246 ADC and most likely it 
 is used to monitor temperature.
Also  mentioned before the FE 5680 output is not the cleanest, I did observe it 
and  some one posted the attached. I apologize but my records do not show who 
did, so  if you posted the data please come forward. For serious applications 
where you  are using it as your main reference a clean up like the Morion MV89 
or HP 10811  should be considered.
This  addition is not required for beta tests but temperature control will help.
I am also  enclosing the express PCB layout, be free to use it but it would be 
more  economical to do a group buy if there is enough interest and some one 
steps up  to kit.
Bert  Kehren
To  not exceed the attachment limit the plot will be a separate  posting





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