Hi

Your ADEV is (mostly) a plot of 1-2 ns resolution out over your sample range. 
It’s not a “typical” three segment ADEV. It’s more likely that any departure 
from a straight line is random rather than systematic. Yes I’ve spent a lot of 
time looking at random plots that I was *sure* had significant information in 
them…..

Bob


On Sep 1, 2014, at 9:31 PM, Bob Stewart <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Poul,
> 
> I've made a few hardware changes and some software changes, and I was 
> wondering if you (and/or others) would take a look at this plot.  The green 
> is phase over 70,000+ seconds with ~100ps resolution, while the blue is the 
> ADEV.  (The sharp departures in phase are from large temperature changes and 
> not quite perfect temperature compensation software.)  I don't see your 
> horizontal line down at the bottom, but there are some worrying horizontal 
> lines between about 3tau and 150tau.  Should I take that to mean that I have 
> some noise/oscillations from about 1/3Hz to 1/150Hz?  Those up at about 
> 150tau I think I can see by eye on another plot of different data.  I've got 
> a lot of data collected from this run (still running) including pTerm, iTerm, 
> dTerm, and tTerm (temperature) updates to the DAC.  I hope to try to tease 
> something out of that later, though the pTerm and iTerm are mostly +1,0,-1 
> stuff.  FWIW, in real terms, the dGain is at about 4.2.  The phase
> starts to get ugly if I bring it much below that.  iGain is .01 and pGain is 
> .05.  There are misc damping and limiting factors applied, as well.  
> 
> 
> Just about ready to do a second board with updates from what I've learned, so 
> any help is appreciated.  The plan is to release the source code at some (not 
> too) future date and make boards available, if there's interest.  But I've 
> still got a lot to do before that.
> 
> 
> http://evoria.net/AE6RV/TIC/ADEV3.png
> 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Poul-Henning Kamp <[email protected]>
> To: Bob Stewart <[email protected]>; Discussion of precise time and frequency 
> measurement <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 1:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Phase Noise Measurement in Primitive Conditions
> 
> 
> --------
> In message <[email protected]>, Bob 
> Ste
> wart writes:
> 
> This looks like a step in the right direction.
> 
> The "correct" allan plot will have a clearly visible horizontal
> segment somewhere in the 100-10000 second range (depending on OCXO quality).
> 
> This is where the GPS long-term stability "takes over" from the OCXO's
> better short-term stability.
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