So does adding ~80 pF per meter or 8 nF for 100 meters (RG58) to your output have any effect on the risetime? Because that is what it will see with an open cable.

I am sure you can make a case for some condition(s) where an unterminated cable will still work. But it is not something we have been shown necessary to make precise measurements (something this group strives for).

YMMV,
Tom


----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike S" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Correcting jitter on the 1 PPSsignalfromaGPSreceiver.


On 9/15/2014 10:01 AM, Tom Miller wrote:
Fast risetime pulses _are_ RF and need to be treated as such.

You say that as if simply saying it provides an explanation, or even a reason. Exactly what ill effect on a triggered measurement is there if one does not terminate a PPS signal properly? Does/can termination increase the slew rate or make the speed of propagation more consistent, which might make the measurement more accurate?

Like Tom said, what comes after the leading edge of a PPS signal (which is the measurement trigger) seems irrelevant.

A simple though experiment. If I take a high impedance measurement at a tap 1M from the source, and the cable ends another 100M away, how can the termination or lack thereof at that end effect my measurement of a single event? It's over 700 ns round trip away? If I repeat that event 1/sec, is it any different? I can see where there would be a difference when I get close to a 700 ns cycle time, and likely before because of "ringing." But for a 1 second cycle? Someone will have to provide more than a dismissive "just because" to convince me.
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