Yes funny how those things tend to work. If you have good enough life will fill in with other things pretty quickly. As an example I have an old austron 2201 GPS unit that really does a nice job of showing offsets. But with the GPS rollover and other annoyances its actually a pain in the butt to fire up. Far to spoiled by the modern things you fire up walk away and 30-120 min later pretty darn stable. Regard Paul WB8TSL
On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Stephen Farthing <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi guys, > > Thanks for the advice and offers to help. I think I will pass on the > Proteus. I have already have a rubidium standard and getting the Proteus > to work is probably going to take up more time than I have available for a > while. > > Kind regards, > > Steve G0XAR > > On Thursday, 5 November 2015, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Send time-nuts mailing list submissions to > > [email protected] <javascript:;> > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visite > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > [email protected] <javascript:;> > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > [email protected] <javascript:;> > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of time-nuts digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. NAVSTAR proteus GPS time and frequency unit (Stephen Farthing) > > 2. Re: NAVSTAR proteus GPS time and frequency unit (Bob Camp) > > 3. Re: NAVSTAR proteus GPS time and frequency unit (paul swed) > > 4. General Radio frequency standard question... (Burt I. Weiner) > > 5. Re: NAVSTAR proteus GPS time and frequency unit (Rob Sherwood.) > > 6. Re: NAVSTAR proteus GPS time and frequency unit > > ([email protected] <javascript:;>) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 19:25:39 +0000 > > From: Stephen Farthing <[email protected] <javascript:;>> > > To: [email protected] <javascript:;> > > Subject: [time-nuts] NAVSTAR proteus GPS time and frequency unit > > Message-ID: > > <CAAx2MdJJOU6rcz=EV-SQng-TBKwBvcFMMOjUwUhr0oSZe1QK= > > [email protected] <javascript:;>> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > Hi all, > > > > I have the chance to buy a new boxed unit. Having glanced at the manual I > > understand that the configuration software runs under Windows 95 and > uses a > > serial RS232 port. The only Windows box I have now runs Windows 10 and > has > > USB only. So my questions are, can I run the config software under > Windows > > 10 and will a USB to serial adaptor work with it? I will need to make a > > power supply for it as I think it requires 24 volts. That should be no > > problem. > > > > Any comments great fully received. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Steve G0XAR > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 17:47:36 -0500 > > From: Bob Camp <[email protected] <javascript:;>> > > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > > <[email protected] <javascript:;>> > > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] NAVSTAR proteus GPS time and frequency unit > > Message-ID: <[email protected] > <javascript:;>> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > Hi > > > > In general running Win 95 software on Win 10 is not a real good bet. It’s > > slightly more > > likely to work with Win 10 Pro than with the entry level version. > > > > Bob > > > > > On Nov 4, 2015, at 2:25 PM, Stephen Farthing <[email protected] > > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I have the chance to buy a new boxed unit. Having glanced at the > manual I > > > understand that the configuration software runs under Windows 95 and > > uses a > > > serial RS232 port. The only Windows box I have now runs Windows 10 and > > has > > > USB only. So my questions are, can I run the config software under > > Windows > > > 10 and will a USB to serial adaptor work with it? I will need to make a > > > power supply for it as I think it requires 24 volts. That should be no > > > problem. > > > > > > Any comments great fully received. > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > Steve G0XAR > > > _______________________________________________ > > > time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] <javascript:;> > > > To unsubscribe, go to > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 17:19:41 -0500 > > From: paul swed <[email protected] <javascript:;>> > > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > > <[email protected] <javascript:;>> > > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] NAVSTAR proteus GPS time and frequency unit > > Message-ID: > > < > > cad2jfag_znczh6t3-eezlbrb2mmnabx2mhqwja+sm72w+vm...@mail.gmail.com > > <javascript:;>> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > Steve > > My very small 10 cents. > > I am pretty sure win 95 had no idea what USB is. I think thats was win98 > > sp2 region. > > Certainly win10 wouldn't understand what that program was. > > > > But that said there are dos emulators/virtual machines that might let you > > get away with it. The other comment is if the device is circa 95 then > most > > likely you will also have GPS week rollover issues. > > If the thing is selling for $1 then what the heck. Fun is fun. > > Otherwise you may want to consider something a bit newer saving the > > headaches and complexity. They seem to start in the $125 range and go up. > > There are certainly modern solutions at low cost without the pain. > > >From the guy who has recovered more then a few ancient GPS systems. :-) > > I suspect if there is a better answer you will get it here. Good luck. > > Regards > > Paul > > WB8TSL > > > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Stephen Farthing <[email protected] > > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I have the chance to buy a new boxed unit. Having glanced at the > manual I > > > understand that the configuration software runs under Windows 95 and > > uses a > > > serial RS232 port. The only Windows box I have now runs Windows 10 and > > has > > > USB only. So my questions are, can I run the config software under > > Windows > > > 10 and will a USB to serial adaptor work with it? I will need to make a > > > power supply for it as I think it requires 24 volts. That should be no > > > problem. > > > > > > Any comments great fully received. > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > Steve G0XAR > > > _______________________________________________ > > > time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] <javascript:;> > > > To unsubscribe, go to > > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2015 09:07:42 -0800 > > From: "Burt I. Weiner" <[email protected] <javascript:;>> > > To: [email protected] <javascript:;> > > Subject: [time-nuts] General Radio frequency standard question... > > Message-ID: <[email protected] > <javascript:;> > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > > > I'm trying to remember the model number of the GR Comparison Scope - > > the one that had the anode in the center of the face of the > > CRT. Something like an 1109A or B? Can someone refresh my > > memory. At one time I was looking for one of those - maybe I still am. > > > > Burt, K6OQK > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [time-nuts] General Radio frequency standard question > > > > > >There is a GR group on Yahoo but its pretty quiet. > > > > > >I joined when I started restoring one of the GR early synthesizers a > > 1161A, > > >the a 1115A > > >oscillator (the one where the dewer got destroyed in shipping). > > > > Burt I. Weiner Associates > > Broadcast Technical Services > > Glendale, California U.S.A. > > [email protected] <javascript:;> > > www.biwa.cc > > K6OQK > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 5 > > Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 03:59:26 +0000 > > From: Rob Sherwood. <[email protected] <javascript:;>> > > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > > <[email protected] <javascript:;>> > > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] NAVSTAR proteus GPS time and frequency unit > > Message-ID: <[email protected] > <javascript:;>> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > For multiple reasons I install serial cards in my Win7 desktops. > > On the issue of the Win95 program, it may not run because the CPU is too > > fast. > > Rob > > NC0b > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > On Nov 4, 2015, at 7:02 PM, "paul swed" <[email protected] > > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > My very small 10 cents. > > > I am pretty sure win 95 had no idea what USB is. I think thats was > win98 > > > sp2 region. > > > Certainly win10 wouldn't understand what that program was. > > > > > > But that said there are dos emulators/virtual machines that might let > you > > > get away with it. The other comment is if the device is circa 95 then > > most > > > likely you will also have GPS week rollover issues. > > > If the thing is selling for $1 then what the heck. Fun is fun. > > > Otherwise you may want to consider something a bit newer saving the > > > headaches and complexity. They seem to start in the $125 range and go > up. > > > There are certainly modern solutions at low cost without the pain. > > >> From the guy who has recovered more then a few ancient GPS systems. > :-) > > > I suspect if there is a better answer you will get it here. Good luck. > > > Regards > > > Paul > > > WB8TSL > > > > > >> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Stephen Farthing <[email protected] > > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > >> > > >> Hi all, > > >> > > >> I have the chance to buy a new boxed unit. Having glanced at the > manual > > I > > >> understand that the configuration software runs under Windows 95 and > > uses a > > >> serial RS232 port. The only Windows box I have now runs Windows 10 and > > has > > >> USB only. So my questions are, can I run the config software under > > Windows > > >> 10 and will a USB to serial adaptor work with it? I will need to make > a > > >> power supply for it as I think it requires 24 volts. That should be no > > >> problem. > > >> > > >> Any comments great fully received. > > >> > > >> Thanks in advance, > > >> > > >> Steve G0XAR > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] <javascript:;> > > >> To unsubscribe, go to > > >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > >> and follow the instructions there. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] <javascript:;> > > > To unsubscribe, go to > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > If this email is spam, report it to > > > > > > https://support.onlymyemail.com/view/report_spam/ODExMjI6MTgyMjYyODM2OTpyb2JAbmMwYi5jb206ZGVsaXZlcmVk > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 6 > > Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 05:18:44 -0500 > > From: [email protected] <javascript:;> > > To: [email protected] <javascript:;> > > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] NAVSTAR proteus GPS time and frequency unit > > Message-ID: <[email protected] <javascript:;>> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > Hi Steve, > > > > I've got one of these, also came to me new in the box but that was > around > > twelve years ago and other than a short period of testing has stayed > there > > ever since, nothing wrong with it as far as I can remember just too > much > > stuff, too much to do, and Thunderbolts and the like do take up a bit > less > > space:-) > > > > How long do you have before you need to make a decision?, I can let you > > have a copy of the software if you want to play with that first, and the > > manual too if you don't have ongoing access to it at the moment. > > > > Interestingly, the Proteus software is badged Symmetricom, although I > > don't recall anything to suggest that they and Parthus had any working > > relationship. > > > > My manual indicates the software as suitable for Win95, Win98, and NT, > > which does rather show its age:-), but I've run it ok on a P4 WinXP > machine > > using a standard RS232 port. > > I could try an installation under Win7 via a USB to serial adapter but my > > Proteus is tucked away in its box so I would need a bit of time to get it > > set up, and whilst that obviously won't confirm it will work with Win 10 > > it > > might at least be a step nearer. > > > > Unfortunately whilst the manual does give information on the message > format > > for the time port output it doesn't for the control port, just refers to > > the supplied CDU software. > > Presumably it could be sniffed at the port but the manual does state that > > the messages are binary format and that a terminal emulator can't be > used > > for control. > > > > The Proteus was supplied in 12, 24, and 48 Volt versions, and this will > be > > indicated on the label on the unit. One thing to be aware of, just in > case > > it doesn't come with original antenna, is that the antenna port feeds 12 > > Volts DC to the antenna, rather than 5 Volts, or even 3.3 Volts, as > often > > found later. As far as I remember this isn't made clear in the manual. > > > > Week 1024 rollover is discussed in the manual and shouldn't have been an > > issue, at least that's what they said for the 1999 rollover:-), but > again I > > can check that if you don't need to make a decision in the next day or > so. > > > > Regards > > > > Nigel > > GM8PZR > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I have the chance to buy a new boxed unit. Having glanced at the manual > I > > understand that the configuration software runs under Windows 95 and > uses > > a > > serial RS232 port. The only Windows box I have now runs Windows 10 and > has > > USB only. So my questions are, can I run the config software under > Windows > > 10 and will a USB to serial adaptor work with it? I will need to make a > > power supply for it as I think it requires 24 volts. That should be no > > problem. > > > > Any comments great fully received. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Steve G0XAR > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list > > [email protected] <javascript:;> > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of time-nuts Digest, Vol 136, Issue 5 > > ***************************************** > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
