> Or use the sawtooth compensation value  to control an external variable delay 
> line circuit

Hi Mark,

Right, one example is https://datasheets.maximintegrated.com/en/ds/DS1020.pdf 
or google for silicon delay line. Not sure they're in production still but you 
can find them at the reseller sites.

This delay line idea came up in the early Oncore-VP era gps mailing list (pre 
time-nuts) by someone who first explored sawtooth correction and "hanging 
bridges"; and it's the method that Rick then chose for his CNS Clock product 
line. See: http://cnssys.com and http://gpstime.com for details.

The advantage of the delay line method is that you don't need a nanosecond TIC 
in the box; you correct for the sawtooth error live on the 1PPS. Very simple 
and effective. The main GPS feed in my lab is a CNS Clock.

This disadvantage is that if you already have a TIC connected to your GPS/1PPS, 
there's not much point in pre-sawtooth correcting with a delay line. The error 
is something that you're going to correct with arithmetic anyway so there's no 
need to correct it in pulse phase. Rick's TAC32 software (that many time nuts 
use) handles integration of serial TIC data (such as hp 53132) along with GPS 
binary data to provide sawtooth corrected measurements. Several of Rick's 
papers at the above sites explain this in fine detail.

/tvb


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Sims" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 8:28 PM
Subject: [time-nuts] How does sawtooth compensation work?


> Or use the sawtooth compensation value  to control an external variable delay 
> line circuit to move around the PPS signal from the receiver.  This can get 
> interesting to implement if the receiver can output negative values for the 
> sawtooth compensation (hint: add a bias to  the sawtooth value to make the 
> compensation values always positive and adjust the antenna cable delay 
> command to remove the bias value that you add.  Oh, and for some receivers 
> you have to reverse the meaning of positive and negative sawtooth corrections 
> and/or cable delay values).  It is even more interesting if the receiver 
> outputs the sawtooth correction after the pulse it just generated... hint: 
> get a different GPS receiver).
> 
> --------------------
>> A device that uses the sawtooth data shoves it into the control loop along 
>> with the measured early / late information on the PPS. 
> 

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