I am quite intrigued by two things here:
1. What improvements were made to the instruments, and 

2. What were the instrument settings and test setups?

Thanks.

Tom Holmes, N8ZM


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In a message dated 8/11/2016 4:30:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

Remember  that L(f) is expressed in dBc/Hz, not dBm/Hz.  If it were dBm/Hz, 
then kT  would be the limit.  But in dBc/Hz terms, the limit  is 177 + the 
DUT's output power in dBm - transistor large signal NF in dB  .  

Assuming a 50 ohm system, of course.

-- john,  KE5FX
Miles Design LLC


> -----Original Message-----
>  From: time-nuts [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike
>  Feher
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> To: 'Discussion  of precise time and frequency measurement';
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> Subject: Re:  [time-nuts] State of the art of crystal oscillator 
measurements
>  
> kT is indeed relevant for a physical implementation. - Mike
>  
> Mike B. Feher, EOZ Inc.
> 89 Arnold Blvd.
> Howell, NJ,  07731
> 732-886-5960 office
> 908-902-3831  cell

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