I am wandering if it will be the same results without 'FatPPS'. In my Lab I was able to use T-Bolt 1PPS through TADD-3 (not from RS2323). Works stable.

I am using 'chrony' though

210 Number of sources = 5
.- Number of sample points in measurement set. / .- Number of residual runs with same sign. | / .- Length of measurement set (time). | | / .- Est. clock freq error (ppm). | | | / .- Est. error in freq. | | | | / .- Est. offset. | | | | | | On the -. | | | | | | samples. \ | | | | | | | Name/IP Address NP NR Span Frequency Freq Skew Offset Std Dev
==============================================================================
PPS0 19 10 291 -0.000 0.003 -1ns 293ns ntp2.torix.ca 10 7 154m +0.848 0.256 +4251us 459us time.sidereal.ca 9 5 137m +0.311 0.539 -3996us 837us S0106c04a00f34a5d.vc.shaw 40 18 11h -0.036 0.050 -5995us 1009us omega.goholdings.ca 58 29 16h -0.040 0.036 +5987us 1345us



On 2016-10-15 01:17, Bob wrote:
Here is a BSD computer running ntpd, configured with hardware serial
port attached GPS, PPS through FatPPS into the serial port seen as
GPS_NMEA below, along with the two LeoNTP servers at 192.168.20.5 and
192.168.20.6, offset and jitter appear reasonable, as expected on a
LAN, and I've seen no anomalies over the past month.

remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter
==============================================================================
oGPS_NMEA(0)     .GPS.            0 l   20   16  377    0.000    0.002
  0.001  <- BSD+PPS
+192.168.20.5    .GPS.            1 u   24   64  377    0.162   -0.011
  0.006  <- LeoNTP #1
+192.168.20.6    .GPS.            1 u   44   64  377    0.159   -0.009
  0.004  <- LeoNTP #2

The three devices above have separate GPS antennas installed within a
couple meters of each other, all three see between 10 and 12
satellites.

A couple weeks ago I also used an HP 5334B to compare each LeoNTP PPS
to a TVB screened T-Bolt PPS, the T-Bolt was configured with LH
extended location calibration and in over-determined time mode, T-bolt
sees 7 or 8 satellites. Each LeoNTP 1PPS BNC output agreed with the
T-Bolt 1PPS to within some tens of nanoseconds over a 30 hour run.
The LeoNTP and T-Bolt shared a Microsemi gps splitter and the same
antenna.

After reading your email, as a final sanity check we just set up a
Linux ntpd configured with both LeoNTP servers along with four random
us ntp pool servers.  After an hour here is ntpq -p.

remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter
==============================================================================
+192.168.20.5 .GPS. 1 u 46 64 377 0.604 -0.059 0.123 *192.168.20.6 .GPS. 1 u 40 64 377 0.602 -0.050 0.116 -x.ns.gin.ntt.ne 249.224.99.213 2 u 528 1024 377 12.232 2.023 10.209 xclockb.ntpjs.or 132.163.4.101 2 u 421 1024 373 61.785 2.924 0.244 +four10.gac.edu 216.218.254.202 2 u 1017 1024 377 63.364 -0.137 0.381 -c-73-37-183-90. 142.66.101.13 2 u 418 1024 377 64.903 1.928 2.507

In the above, 192.168.20.5 and 192.168.20.6 are each LeoNTP, they
agree with the four pool servers as nicely as can be expected with a
cable modem connection.

Summary:  I do not see any issues with the LeoNTP servers, both
devices worked as expected.  LeoNTP is also by far the friendliest
commercial NTP server I've ever configured, the human interface is
well thought out.

As Hal suggested, perhaps there is some systematic configuration issue
with your other pair of clocks?  I keep a $40 Adafruit Ultimate GPS
with PPS output and little puck antenna, for the sort of situation you
see, it powers up indoors in 60 seconds and its PPS into ntpd would
let you have a 3rd clock if using internet servers doesn't get you an
answer.

I have no relationship with the vendor other than as a satisfied customer.

Bob


On Oct 14, 2016, at 5:31 PM, gmx tallahassee <gmx.tallahas...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

I'm checking out the leontp ntp time server (leontp.com). After a week of
use I am getting the following ntp -q output:

$ ntpq -pn
    remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset
jitter
==============================================================================
*172.17.21.11    .GPS.            1 u   13   16  377    0.137    0.077
0.054             <- Arbiter 1084C GPS Clock
+172.17.21.12    .GPS.            1 u   11   16  377    0.101    0.085
0.174             <- Arbiter 1084C GPS Clock
x172.17.21.233   .GPS.            1 u   11   16  377    0.071    9.760
0.061            <- LeoNTP

the offset of the leontp device from the other clocks has consistently been in the 9.5 -10.5 range. since I'm measuring all three sources from the same (EL7) computer, I would expect that the offset of the leontp unit to converge to be in the close neighborhood of the offsets of the arbiters.
It has not converged, instead maintaining the ~10ms offset.

Thoughts?

Thanks.

Details:

172.17.21.11 is approx 400M away through two Cisco 3750G switches no
routing.
172.17.21.12 is in the same rack as the leoNTP unit and plugged into the
same 3750G switch

Antenna location for the .12 arbiter and the leontp is on the same rung of the same tower. Tower has clear horizon to horizon view. cable runs are
the same (obviously).

I did run with the included puck in my south facing office window (rather than the GPS antenna on the tower) for a couple of days when I first got
the unit.  The offset behaviour was the same.
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