Hi

You might be surprised by how well the CSAC does in orbit. There have been a 
lot of cases
over the years where a device has done much better once it is away from “poking 
fingers” 
like pressure and other semi-random stuff ….

Bob

> On Dec 8, 2018, at 1:49 PM, jimlux <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On 12/8/18 10:12 AM, Peter Monta wrote:
>> If a little eccentricity makes for a good test of relativity, wouldn't a
>> lot of eccentricity be even better?  :-)
>> Does anyone know what clock facilities are on the Parker solar probe?
>> Atomic clock?  And a drag-free mode would have been great too, but I doubt
>> that was included.
> 
> Extremely unlikely.. I know one of the PIs for Parker, I'll ask him.
> If anything, they would fly a USO (a really good crystal in a temperature 
> stabilized enclosure).
> 
> I'm flying an atomic clock (a CSAC), launching next week, but it will be in a 
> circular orbit, and I'll bet the gravity variations are small enough that 
> they are less than the uncertainty.
> 
> The other problem is that you need to *measure* that atomic clock against 
> something. The best I can do with my CSAC is compare its 1pps against a 
> Novatel OEM-6 single frequency GPS 1pps, and an onboard 100 MHz oscillator - 
> none of them are outstanding by timenuts standards.
> 
> (CSAC is around 1E-12 at 1000-10000 seconds - see
> http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/csac/
> 
> It's about an order of magnitude worse than a PRS-10 Rb)
> 
> Tom, with his herd of clocks, can leave some at home and take some with him, 
> and compare them upon return.
> 
> I would imagine that someone looks at the behavior of the atomic clocks on 
> the GPS satellites in excruciating detail.  The signals from GPS are 
> incredibly well studied, and have been recorded at carefully maintained 
> ground sites for decades with high quality reference clocks.
> 
> 
> There are folks developing and flying a Deep Space Atomic Clock (DSAC), a 
> trapped Hg-ion, which is substantially better.  Launch is currently March 
> 2019 (on the Falcon Heavy) It's a bit of a beast: 17.5kg, 17.4 liters (a bit 
> bigger than their original goal of 1kg, 1 liter, <grin>) and 44 watts.
> 
> It's supposedly going to be in the 1E-14 range at 1000 seconds, and 1E-15 at 
> 100,000 seconds.
> 
> It will be in LEO, but maybe you can see the variation from the Moon and Sun?
> 
> 
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