Hi

The F9P *will* do a survey in and fixed position. All of the parameters and 
commands are there. 

===========

Doing a buy on the F9T might be easier if the part actually existed ….. Right 
now it is still in the 
vaporware phase.


Bob

> On Jan 25, 2019, at 5:30 PM, Dustin Marquess <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Agreed.  I'm sure the only difference between the two (if there really
> is any) is all in the firmware.  They seem to disable a lot of the
> nicer timing features in their non-timing modules.  Things like
> UBX-CFG-TMODE2 to survey-in and enable 1SV timing mode is a big one.
> 
> -Dustin
> 
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 8:00 AM Bob kb8tq <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> In every other generation of uBlox parts, the “high end” modules (in this 
>> case the P and the T) pretty much did the same
>> thing with only minor differences. You do need precise position to get 
>> precise time. You also need precise time to get precise
>> position. That’s just the way GPS works and always has worked.
>> 
>> What gets us wrapped up are a bunch of specs that really are not very well 
>> qualified. Just what they mean be this or that
>> is rarely clear. Is a timing accuracy tracing it all the way back to BIH in 
>> Paris? Is a location accuracy doing the same sort
>> of thing? Even when they try to quantify a spec, that footnote may or may 
>> not be completely correct. A lot of these docs
>> still talk about the M8 parts when you drill down into them.
>> 
>> The only way to really know is to try some parts and see. That’s the way 
>> it’s always been with these modules from pretty
>> much all the vendors.
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2019, at 6:07 AM, Mike Cook <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So the ultimate question is: Do you need a F9P  in order to find the 
>>> precise position of your F9T Antenna so that you can set up the F9T or is 
>>> the F9T’s survey mode as accurate ( I doubt it as the doc gives position 
>>> accuracy 2m ). Come to think of it, do you need three positioning receivers 
>>> to be sure of your position? and three P9Ts so that you can use 
>>> differential mode for best timing accuracy. I see no on board quantization 
>>> error correction mentioned, nor quantization error reporting though I 
>>> expect that is there, so for best accurracy that has to be added.  This 
>>> looks as though it could get expensive.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Le 24 janv. 2019 à 07:30, Dustin Marquess <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>>> 
>>>> This looks ideal to me:
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.u-blox.com/sites/default/files/RCB-F9T_ProductSummary_%28UBX-18069985%29.pdf
>>>> 
>>>> -Dustin
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 8:01 PM Angus via time-nuts
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> It doesn't look like the F9P does anything special for timing - the
>>>>> timing specs given in the F9T spec sheet are 5 ns (1-sigma, clear sky,
>>>>> absolute mode) and +/- 4ns jitter, but for the F9P are 30ns RMS and
>>>>> 60ns for 99%.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think I want an F9T :)
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> In the year 1000 CE, the Persian Muslim scholar al-Biruni first used the 
>>> term second in Arabic and defined it as 1⁄86,400 (that is, 1/(24 × 60 × 
>>> 60)) of a mean solar day.
>>> 
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