M Graff wrote:
> That is the case now, but every ISP out there from cable modem based to
> DSL to big-pipe ones are starting to listen to IPv6, and Vista supports
> it right out of the box.

Only one ISP supports it in the UK that I'm aware of (AAISP).  From the 
general level of technical competence that there is in the rest I 
suspect most of them can't even spell it.

Heck, a lot of them even refuse to route 192.88.99.1 (I queried this 
with an ISP once and was told 'security issues'.. had to go through 3 
levels of tech support even to get that answer) - the situation is 
probably better in the US I guess.

Of course I had to use a cisco router to actually be able to use it 
too... off the shelf 'cheap' routers don't support it yet.  Until that 
changes vista support is largely irrelevant.  There won't be a mass use 
of ipv6 until joe public can plug their machine in and get an ipv6 
address by checking a box... even then I suspect they won't even do that 
until things like google support it (chicken and egg.. google won't 
support it because nobody is on ipv6, and there are almost no ipv6 
enabled websites.  No websites will go on ipv6 because nobody ever 
connects over it.. nobody ever connects over it because there are no 
websites).

Pretty much we're years off any mass adoption, if it happens at all.  By 
the time that happens the ntp abuse problem will have been solved hopefully.

> Funny story -- I had to install vista recently here at my home, and I
> have a IPv6 tunnel from work.  I could not get ipv4 to work out of the
> box, but ipv6 worked perfectly without any effort on my part -- I
> literally went to a ipv6-enabled web site and it just worked.  ipv4 gave
> me problems because of crappy software the vendor put on the box by default.

When ipv6 works the autoconfiguration makes it a lot easier to use - 
I've lost count of the number of times I've borked a box or router and 
still been able to connect over ipv6.

Now if they'd only update the RA specs to send things like nameservers 
we could do away with the dhcp server.. as it is it's really only useful 
for getting onto the local net to find out why dhcp failed and give it a 
kick :p

Tony

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