> I think there is a real danger of somebody (with a lot more time on their 
> hands than me) forking the OpenERP project if the basics do not get fixed. 


Well, it's being done already http://www.tryton.org/
by people that would agree plainly with you...
Because it doesn't try to accommodate with an existing customer basis or make 
investors dream, Tryton is actually progressing a lot faster on that "basic" 
scope (framework and accounting essentially), while accepting to be weaker on 
satellite features, which I believe is what you suggest too, and what I suggest 
too (like many integrators).

IMHO, it's not so much a "real danger". Yes Tryton has some chances to win over 
OpenERP in the future I think, especially if OpenERP S.A. forgets the reasons 
why open source is cheaper, that is in great part because the development is 
distributed across several actors that at some point have some common interest 
(and not only because the code is open).

In any case it sets the pressure on OpenERP S.A.: either they fix it whatever 
it takes (using the community power hopefully), either the forks will win. For 
users/integrators this is all the safety we expect from open source. Real open 
source editors expose them to the pressure of forks and win only if they are 
the best over the time. Like many of us, I would not choose to be an OpenERP 
integrator if I hadn't the guarantee of a successful fork in case of abusive 
business model or lack of basic features.

Now, I would prefer to see them fix the accounting issues, and I believe a lot 
has been done that last 1.5 years of R&D on OpenERP v6 that is now around the 
corner (did you try it?). But for sure, if they don't accelerate the pace of 
fixes, Tryton might finally emerge.

For myself, the real test is now that we nearly have v6, at what pace OpenERP 
will re-factor itself. Anything longer than say a 10 months major release (eg 
breaking backward compat for sanity where required) cycle, Tryton will be so 
much better soon that it will start eating significant OpenERP market shares, 
otherwise OpenERP can make it too, despite the current flaws, cause unlike some 
other products that are "genetically doomed", those can still be removed if 
proper policies are taken.

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Raphaël Valyi

CEO and OpenERP consultant at
http://www.akretion.com




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