Perhaps it is a symbiosis, the trees are offering the acorns to 
the squirrels, and we have to grant a sense of the future to oak 
trees also.

Ken

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On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:16:09 -0800 Harry Avis 
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> Assume that squirrels have evolved a behavior pattern - see acorn bury it. 
> Then come Winter and Spring, squirrel is hungry and smells the acorn in the 
> ground. I don't have the reference, but I recall reading that squirrels are 
> absolutely lousy at finding acorns they have buried (no episodic memory?). 
> Their lack of episodic memory is, however, great for oak trees.
> 
> Harry Avis PhD
> Sierra College
> Rocklin, CA 95677
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Life is opinion - Marcus Aurelius
> There is nothing that is good or bad, but that thinking makes it so     - 
> Shakespeare
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Patrick O. Dolan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" 
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: Student's question
> >Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 14:29:51 -0500
> >
> >Not sure what you mean by sense of the future, but you may be able to
> >explain squirrel behavior without assuming they have some complex sense of
> >the past and future. However, Nicole Clayton has suggested that birds
> >display episodic-like memory because they not only remember the spatial
> >location of previously stored food, but are also sensitive to temporal
> >factors, as if they remember "when" they were stored and know whether or 
> >not
> >the perishable larvae are still good and worth digging up.  See Clayton, N.
> >S. & Dickinson, A. (1998).  Episodic-like memory during cache recovery by
> >scrub jays.  Nature, 395, 272-273.  Neat stuff.
> >
> >Patrick
> >
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> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Michael Sylvester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 1:31 PM
> >Subject: Student's question
> >
> >
> > >
> > > do squirrels have a sense of the future since they can store nuts
> > > at the base of certain trees and return the following day to retrieve
> > > them?
> > >
> > > Michael Sylvester,PhD
> > > Daytona Beach,Florida
> >

Ken

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Kenneth M. Steele, Ph.D.                [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dept. of Psychology
Appalachian State University
Boone, NC 28608
USA 




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