If we start granting the "sense of the future" to the acorn, I'm going NOMAIL for a week... ;)
Paul Smith Alverno College Milwaukee > -----Original Message----- > From: Kenneth M. Steele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 2:38 PM > To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences > Subject: Re: Student's question > > > > Perhaps it is a symbiosis, the trees are offering the acorns to > the squirrels, and we have to grant a sense of the future to oak > trees also. > > Ken > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:16:09 -0800 Harry Avis > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Assume that squirrels have evolved a behavior pattern - see > acorn bury it. > > Then come Winter and Spring, squirrel is hungry and smells > the acorn in the > > ground. I don't have the reference, but I recall reading > that squirrels are > > absolutely lousy at finding acorns they have buried (no > episodic memory?). > > Their lack of episodic memory is, however, great for oak trees. > > > > Harry Avis PhD > > Sierra College > > Rocklin, CA 95677 > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Life is opinion - Marcus Aurelius > > There is nothing that is good or bad, but that thinking > makes it so - > > Shakespeare > > > > > > > > >From: "Patrick O. Dolan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Subject: Re: Student's question > > >Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 14:29:51 -0500 > > > > > >Not sure what you mean by sense of the future, but you may > be able to > > >explain squirrel behavior without assuming they have some > complex sense of > > >the past and future. However, Nicole Clayton has suggested > that birds > > >display episodic-like memory because they not only > remember the spatial > > >location of previously stored food, but are also sensitive > to temporal > > >factors, as if they remember "when" they were stored and > know whether or > > >not > > >the perishable larvae are still good and worth digging up. > See Clayton, N. > > >S. & Dickinson, A. (1998). Episodic-like memory during > cache recovery by > > >scrub jays. Nature, 395, 272-273. Neat stuff. > > > > > >Patrick > > > > > >******************** > > >Patrick O. Dolan > > >Department of Psychology > > >Drew University > > >Madison, NJ 07940 > > >973-408-3558 > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >******************** > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Michael Sylvester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 1:31 PM > > >Subject: Student's question > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do squirrels have a sense of the future since they can > store nuts > > > > at the base of certain trees and return the following > day to retrieve > > > > them? > > > > > > > > Michael Sylvester,PhD > > > > Daytona Beach,Florida > > > > > Ken > > ---------------------- > Kenneth M. Steele, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dept. of Psychology > Appalachian State University > Boone, NC 28608 > USA > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to tips as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
