A message for the non-geezers.  If you want to get an idea of what is being
talked about.  Go to Blockbuster (or your local video rental store) and
search through the classic films for a copy of the movie, The Apartment,
which starred Jack Lemon.  There is a rather amusing segment in that film
where he watches and LISTENS to the sounds of a Friden calculator grinding
out a calculation.

For the geezers who remember Friden calculators, I think a psychophysics
measure that should have been researched was the number of milliseconds
between a person hearing the calculator jamming and reaching over the top of
the machine in order to disconnect the power card.  But atleast we weren't
using Comptometer machines, which were totally manual.  Yes, that's right,
no form of energy other than finger power.

The Friden calculators I used in 1958 were not able to compute a square root
directly.  The method that was offered in the machine manual instructed you
to repeatedly subtract consecutive odd numbers.  The calculator kept track
of the number of subtractions that were made.  A simple example.  9 - 1 = 8,
8 - 3 = 5 and 5 - 5 = 0.  Three odd numbers have been subtracted (the square
root of 9).  Obviously, we didn't use that method, we just looked up the
square root in our CRC Table Book.  That name was included on the old geezer
test list.  But that would have been too biased in favor of the techie slide
rule crowd.

How many geezers also memorized that the square root of 3 was 1.732 and the
square root of 2 was 1.414?  Oh, those trig classes.

Well this old RETIRED geezer and TIPS lurker, who is now adjunct, still
enjoys reading the TIPS information.  OK guys back to lurking.

Michael Bergmire
Adjunct
Jefferson College
1000 Viking Drive
Hillsboro, MO 63050




----- Original Message -----
From: "Harry Avis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: you're a geezer if you remember


> They were Marchant, I wrote this note hastily before going to class with
one
> eye on the clock. I can't remember whether the Friden calculators were
> completely electronic or operated like an electrified adding machine.
Either
> way my guess (counting the chunk-achunk-achunk) that seems indelibly wrote
> in my auditory memory, each "chunka" was a half second, so the answer
would
> depend on the number of places needed.
>
> Harry Avis PhD
> Sierra College
> Rocklin, CA 95677
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Life is opinion - Marcus Aurelius
> There is nothing that is good or bad, but that thinking makes it so     -
> Shakespeare
>
>
>
> >From: Paul Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences"
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >CC: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: you're a geezer if you remember
> >Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:38:12 -0600
> >
> >At 12:53 PM -0800 11/26/01, Don Allen wrote:
> > >Harry-
> > >
> > >I thought that they were Marchant claculators not Merchant.  Does this
> >mean
> > >that I have dyslexia as well, or is this just another example of geezer
> > >memory?
> >
> >For extra credit:
> >How long did it take a Friden calculator to grind out a square root?
> >
> >* PAUL K. BRANDON               [EMAIL PROTECTED]  *
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