Stephen Black wrote:

"The opinion I arrived at was that levels of measurement
is one of those topics that we like to torture students with but
has no real utility (another example is the negative/positive
reinforcement distinction). Even though the t-test is supposed
only to be used with data which satisfies a rather restrictive
set of assumptions, it turns out to be "robust" when its
assumptions are violated, so it can be happily (and justifiably)
used in lots of other cases.

Most of the literature on this question is quite old. I ransacked
my file, and came up with the following relatively recent paper
supporting this point of view. Wilkinson is a noted statistician
who invented the SYSTAT computer programme for analyzing data.
Here's the abstract of his paper with Velleman:

"The psychophysicist S.S. Stevens developed a measurement scale
typology that has dominated social statistics methodology for
almost 50 years. During this period, it has generated
considerable controversy among statisticians. Recently, there has
been a renaissance in the use of Steven's scale typology for
guiding the design of statistical computer packages. The current
use of Steven's terminology fails to deal with the classical
criticisms at the time it was proposed and ignores important
developments in data analysis over the last several decades."

It would be interesting to hear how current textbooks of
psychological statistics deal with this issue."

Current textbooks of psychological statistics (including the grad level text
I used over the summer), still discuss these distinctions precisely because
they are relevant to psychometrics if not to mathematical statistics. I am
not surprised that a mathematical statistician/computer scientist would not
see the relevance. Theoretical statisticians manipulate numbers and
distributions with little concern for how those numbers might relate to any
real phenomenon. That is not a criticism -- that is what they do and they do
it well. I doubt that we would have many of the very useful statistical
techniques we have today if theoretical statisticians were not doing what
they are doing. But that doesn't make them subject experts in how statistics
are used in the social and behavioral sciences.

Psychometric operationalization is the process of taking qualities and
turning them into quantities, making calculations and then reinterpreting
the quantities in ways that will say something meaningful about those
qualities we want to understand. It is in this process that it becomes
relevant and important for us to understand just what information is
contained in a number. Nominal data in numerical form contains the minimum
amount of information, a 1 is different from a 2, a red car is different
from a blue car. With nominal data, the two is not twice as much as and one
and the two is not even more than the one. It is just different.

Ordinal data contains nominal information but also contains basic
quantitative information in terms of order (A has more of this thing than B
does). You cannot make direct ratio comparisons with data that is only
ordinal. It would not make sense to discuss the average ranking in a class
because the units are not at equal intervals. We wouldn't say that the
average high school class ranking in our freshman class is 20th because the
mean is a balance point of a distribution and it assumes equal intervals
between the units. And, of course, since it is not ratio data, it would be
inappropriate to say that our college freshman are twice as highly ranked as
yours if your freshman average high school ranking is 40th. So, it is not
because the t-test is not robust with regard to violation of its assumptions
that it is not appropriate for ordinal data. It is not appropriate because
the means, which are calculated in t-tests, are not meaningful with ordinal
data.

Anyone who is teaching the use of statistics in psychological applications
as a mathematical exercise and does not repeatedly stress thinking about
what information is contained in the numbers when we try to interpret them
should not bother with teaching scales of measurement because, to them,
these concepts truly are meaningless and will only be perceived by students
as useless academic trivia. I think back when we spent most of our time in
stats teaching and learning to hand calculate various procedures, the
mechanics was all we had time for. Now that we have mechanical means of
computation available, we should go into more depth about what the numbers
mean and how they should be interpreted.

Rick

Dr. Rick Froman
Associate Professor of Psychology
John Brown University
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