Perhaps a distinction needs to be made between sin in behavior and sin
in the heart.  We can work to control the sin in our behavior but the
sin in our heart, I believe, is part of the human condition.  To take
the concept of sin out of religious terminology, I sometimes liken the
concept of sin to the idea of brokenness.  If you ask any recovering
alcoholic to tell you about brokenness, he or she will readily admit to
you that in the process of their recovery they discovered that there was
a limit to their self-sufficiency.  They will also tell you that it
wasn't until they acknowledged their brokenness that they were able to
grow.  This has also been my experience in the many years that I've been
doing therapy with other kinds of clients.  Change usually doesn't occur
until clients recognize their brokenness, or recognize how they are
agents as well as victims, or recognize how they tend to sabotage their
efforts to change, or recognize that there is part of them that doesn't
want to change or love or reach out to others. 

I'm sometimes asked if human beings are inherently good or inherently
bad.  My answer to that question is that human beings are both bad and
good.  We have a tremendous capacity for love and growth.  On the other
hand, we also have an equally tremendous capacity for self-centeredness
and stubborn resistance to change.  Christian psychologists wrongly
criticize humanistic psychologists because of their assumption that
humans are good at their core.  I think humanists are partly correctly
in that there is something good about humans, but there is also
something ugly and self-centered that lurks in our heart.  To put it in
other words, if loving ourselves and loving others is our ultimate goal
in life, then sin is the "force" in our hearts that pulls us in the
opposite direction. 

I respect the views of my colleagues who have different opinions on this
matter even though I may disagree with some of the underlying
presuppositions of their arguments.  If anyone is interested in an
interesting discussion of sin, check out psychologist Larry Crabb's text
entitled Inside Out.  It's written from a Christian perspective, but
offers an interesting understanding of sin that is radically different
from the one that many people grew up with in the church.  

Please no flames on this post.  I'm just offering up my two cents to the
discussion.

Rod Hetzel    


-----Original Message-----
From:   Beth Benoit
Sent:   Tue 2/19/2002 6:59 AM
To:     Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
Cc:     
Subject:        Re: rethinking sin

Stephen is absolutely correct.  (DARN! I KNEW I should have spent more
time
crafting my post.)

What I should have said is that "from the standpoint of the idealist,
who
doesn't take into consideration how the Golden Rule can be twisted to
justify an individual agenda, religion should be a good way to encourage
the
continuation of the human race."  Without question, unconscionable abuse
has
taken place in the name of religion.  The difference between ideals
(Golden
Rule) and reality (Real World) is too huge - and discouraging - to even
contemplate.  But I'm glad Stephen pointed out that discrepancy.

Beth Benoit
University System of New Hampshire

on 2/18/02 11:29 PM, Stephen Black at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Beth Benoit wrote:
> 
>> So encouraging religious beliefs
>> is, from a practical standpoint, a good way to encourage the
continuation of
>> the human race.
> 
> Beg to differ. Encouraging religious beliefs is a good way to
> discourage the continuance of the human race (or a subset of it).
> Think the Crusades, the Inquisition, pogroms, Ireland, Israel,
> India/Pakistan, Afghanistan, New York City, September 11. Or that
> wearing a condom to prevent the spread of AIDS (e.g. in Africa)
> is sinful.
> 
> Perhaps a little less religion is what the human race really
> needs if we want to encourage it to continue.
> 
> -Stephen
> 


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