At 9:33 PM -0600 4/1/02, Rick Froman wrote:
>I was just reflecting in church yesterday on the discussions we have had on
>the tension between faith and empiricism. Feel free to delete now (if the
>subject line wasn't warning enough).
>
>The Empiricist's Prayer
>
>John 20:25 "So the other disciples told [Thomas], 'We have seen the Lord!'
>But he said to them, 'Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my
>finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not
>believe it.'"
>
>Jesus answered the Empiricist's Prayer in John 20:26-28, "A week later his
>disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the
>doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, 'Peace be with
>you!' Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out
>your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe." Thomas said
>to him, 'My Lord and my God!'"

For Thomas this was empiricism.
For me it is hearsay (anagram at your own risk ;-)
.

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