Louis That may be the attitude of your school. At SUNY Oswego our administration has been at the forefront of accommodating our students with disabilities. When I was last on the committee, we had the largest proportion of disabled students in the SUNY system. That was a result of how well we, as an institution, accommodated those students. We don't use REASONABLE as a "wiggle out" clause. It is used to provide guidelines as to what we as individuals and as an institution can do. Stacy's recommendations clearly fall within reasonable accommodations. Rather than requiring an instructor to provide lengthy written descriptions of the visual information presented in class, the institution may have someone who will provide those descriptions to the students. One would expect that reasonable people will determine what is a reasonable accommodation.
Gary J. Klatsky, Ph. D. Department of Psychology [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oswego State University (SUNY) http://www.oswego.edu/~klatsky 7060 State Hwy 104W Voice: (315) 312-3474 Oswego, NY 13126 Fax: (315) 312-6330 All of us who are concerned for peace and triumph of reason and justice must be keenly aware how small an influence reason and honest good will exert upon events in the political field. Albert Einstein -----Original Message----- From: Louis_Schmier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 11:44 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Subject: RE: Blind student Gary, also as a past chair of the university's special student needs committee ( a mouthful), I always liked that "backdoor" "wiggle out" word, reasonable. It was amazing how the administration would use that word to resist such accommodations as curb cutting, builoding temporary ramps for graduation, refusing to move classes or offices. What no one really told me was: reasonable to whom. If a student is there to learn and if we are to serve, it would seem reasonable to do whatever it took for that student to learn however inconvenient and uncomfortable it might be for us. It would do us good to think of how to teach in a different. My criteria, as I just told Tom, is what would I expect if I was blind. I remember once I had the members of my committee spend one day in a wheelchair and another with their eyes covered. Boy, did that open their eyes! (pun intended) Make it a good day. --Louis-- Louis Schmier www.therandomthoughts.com Department of History www.halcyon.com/arborhts/louis.html Valdosta State University Valdosta, Georgia 31698 /~\ /\ /\ (229-333-5947) /^\ / \ / /~ \ /~\__/\ / \__/ \/ / /\ /~ \ /\/\-/ /^\___\______\_______/__/_______/^\ -_~ / "If you want to climb mountains, \ /^\ _ _ / don't practice on mole hills" -\____ On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Gary Klatsky wrote: > Having spent a few years on our committee for students with disabilities, > the law is that we make REASONABLE accommodations. Your ADA representative > should provide information on how your institution has defined reasonable > and what you should be expected to do. > > Gary J. Klatsky, Ph. D. > > Department of Psychology [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Oswego State University (SUNY) http://www.oswego.edu/~klatsky > 7060 State Hwy 104W Voice: (315) 312-3474 > Oswego, NY 13126 Fax: (315) 312-6330 > > All of us who are concerned for peace and triumph of reason and > justice must be keenly aware how small an influence reason and > honest good will exert upon events in the political field. > Albert Einstein > > -----Original Message----- > From: Louis_Schmier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:26 AM > To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences > Subject: Re: Blind student > > Tom, you have no choice but to find a way to accommodate your visuals to > the needs of this student. It's the law of the land. > > > Make it a good day. > > --Louis-- > > > Louis Schmier www.therandomthoughts.com > Department of History www.halcyon.com/arborhts/louis.html > Valdosta State University > Valdosta, Georgia 31698 /~\ /\ /\ > (229-333-5947) /^\ / \ / /~ \ /~\__/\ > / \__/ \/ / /\ /~ \ > /\/\-/ /^\___\______\_______/__/_______/^\ > -_~ / "If you want to climb mountains, \ /^\ > _ _ / don't practice on mole hills" -\____ > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to tips as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to tips as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
